Haas Renishaw Probe, Files problem??

[mgb1974]

Got the OTS tool setter and probe set up in our mill. Came from the factory with it but just now got it up and running.

Have a problem with the Renishaw program that is in our mill I think it was setup for a tool holder that has 29 tools in it. Our VF-2 has a 20 holder tool changer.

I edited the program and changed T#29 to T#20 and that got us farther in it but not everytime we run a VQC checking program, it changes to tool one for some reason. When our probe is in tool pocket #20.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

[Vern Smith]

When you do the calibration programs in the VQC menu they ask what tool pocket the probe will be in. I think the answer to that question during the calibration routine sets the default probe pocket number.

Vern

[mgb1974]

Did the calibration through the WIPS screen not the VQC screen, selected pocket 20 for it. I been having trouble with using the WIPS screen. Maybe I need to calibrate it through VQC??

[Vern Smith]

I've never found IPS to be of much help. However, you will have to be sure the VQC macros have been installed on your machine. They are very simple to use and from what I've read on this forum far superior to the IPS screens.

Press "edit" then press PRGRM/CONVRS in the Display section 3 times. This should bring up VQC. To get to the Renishaw macros press F2 and scroll or hand wheel to the bottom of the list, then back up 5 rows to O09996. Press enter and you should have the Renishaw macro screen.

If you don't have O09996 in your list of VQC screens you will have to get them from Haas.

Vern

[HelicopterJohn]

mgb1974,

Prior to using the WIPS system it needs to be calibrated. Both the tool setter and the spindle probe.

Did the HAAS tech set these up for you during your install? That should have been part of the install.

There are 3 programs you need to run in VQC (the screen Vern directed you to) for the calibration process. The first macro is for calibrating tool setter. The second macro is for calibrating the probe (this is where you put in the tool number where the probe will reside). The third is for calibrating the X Y axis. You will need a precision ring gauge approximately 2 inch or larger diameter to run this program. It gets mounted anywhere on the table with a couple of clamps to make sure it doesn't move during the calibration process. Just make sure you have the proper clearance for the probe to move back in forth inside the bore without any interference.

I just reset my probe yesterday so this if still pretty fresh in my 62 year old brain.

Hope this was of addtional help.

John

[mgb1974]

Thanks for the help.

I did all the install, For some reason our company doesnt let Haas setup the machines they order from them. Dont ask me why!

[HelicopterJohn]

I was very fortunate. Our HFO has some very efficient, highly qualified and friendly service technicians. The service technician that set up my machine was Extremely helpful and answered all my questions ( I am a newbie so I had plenty) and did a perfect setup of my machine. Also, after the fact I have called him with a few questions and he was also helpful on those occasions.

Mike you are the man!

John

[OldReliable]

I just deleted the tool call completely from the Renishaw pgm (#9023 I think?) so that it uses the probe in whatever position you have it in when the pgm is called. I had exactly the same problem as you did after a software upgrade last year. Drove me crazy for a while.

[JWK42]

We had trouble with our first Renishaw probe because we were using Macros in other programs that overwrote Macro values Renishaw was using. We changed all our in house Macro programs to start with #600 and our problem was solved. Evidently Renishaw doesn't use any Macro variable above #599.
We have the wireless probe on our last mill and our operaters love it.

[pants]

If using IPS make sure you use RENIPS.V26 otherwise theres all sorts of problems and bugs with potential crashes contact your HFO to get latest files.
T#29 is a macro statment, look in #29 to see what toolnumbers being called up and if necesary change it, rather than delete it!!!

[guypb]

If you are using Haas VQCPS, then really you should use the Probe Qualification cycle which asks for a tool number - this then populates #560!
#560 is then used to populate #29 when other VQC cycles (which call program 9023) are used.

If you have bypassed the Probe Qualification cycle, then you need to amend #560.

I am developing further VQC probing cycles which can be used for part inspection and printing as well as updating a differnt work offsets from the active one. They can be incorporated into programs and do not need the machine to be jogged to a position prior to the cycle.

[OldReliable]

Soooo, if I have deleted the macro tool call then I call the pgm to probe a boss for instance, then why would there be a problem? I position the probe prior to calling the probe pgm that I need. It then runs that pgm regardless of the tool# since I have eliminated the tool call in the macro pgm. Why would there be a problem eliminating a needless tool call? I have been using this method for about a year now to probe round silicon parts for double side beveling on a vacuum fixture. No problems whatsoever.