Lock out feed rate override

[Daves 41]

Is there away to disable the feed rate override at the machine so it will only run at 100%

Dave

[PBMW]

Heh Heh....
Operator troubles???
Best way I have to cure that is to tell them I want you to run this machine. If I catch you turning it down, You're fired. I want 15 parts an hour. I don't get 15 parts an hour I'll know you're turning it down. Do I make myself clear?
I got the same attitude about people that are in there editing my programs. You want sonething changes you bring it to me and we'll look at it. No edits.
I bid parts based on what I know the part will run in. Some YO YO is turning down my machine he's stealing from me. Plain and simple...

[Donkey Hotey]

Okay guys, you've got my attention. I don't employ any operators yet but I will eventually. Can somebody tell me why they'd turn down a machine? Do they think they're doing you a favor because the machine sounds like it's running too hard? Or are they lazy and don't want to deburr 30 parts an hour and this is a way to reduce production?

Just trying to understand the motivation. I would have guessed the opposite problem: operators running the machine too hard--breaking cutters and poor finishes.

[Zincke Machine]

i believe there is a way, im waiting for a call now to see how we do this .. brb..

[toastydeath]

Originally Posted by Donkey Hotey Okay guys, you've got my attention. I don't employ any operators yet but I will eventually. Can somebody tell me why they'd turn down a machine? Do they think they're doing you a favor because the machine sounds like it's running too hard? Or are they lazy and don't want to deburr 30 parts an hour and this is a way to reduce production? Just trying to understand the motivation. I would have guessed the opposite problem: operators running the machine too hard--breaking cutters and poor finishes.

Lazy. They want to dog the job so they have to do as little as possible. It has nothing to do with such highbrow concepts as tool life or chatter; most machine operators who do this kind of behavior don't care in the slightest if a tool eats it or if a machine is screaming.

If you are looking for machine operators, you need to find someone with decent ethic. Look for someone who has a sense of responsibility outside themselves. Do not pay any attention to skill set if you find such a person, hire them and teach them what they need to know. You might want someone who has some minimum knowledge, but often, those people are just not good employees in the long run. Thus, forcing absurd things like feed rate lock.

[mgsanchez]

Originally Posted by Daves 41 Is there away to disable the feed rate override at the machine so it will only run at 100% Dave

This should do it for you.

Setting 19 "Feedrate Override Lockout"

Mike

[automizer]

I know for me I lower rapids when I first set up a machine or the first run of the day, can't take the fast movements with out coffee. As for the feed I can't understand that who ever wrote the program should have made it to be the best speed for that machine, that cutter and that opp. turning it down or up just doesn't seem right

[cam1]

Hmmm, I can see both sides, and I'd go with option 1, read the riot act to the operator. You can acces his cycle times, and his parts/hr.
I liken the lockout of the feedrate override to driving down a highway with the cruise control locked.....at whatever speed a racecar driver selected. This could lead to a liability situation if someone gets hurt, or the machine crashes.

regards

[PBMW]

Cam1
Feedrate lock outs ain't got diddley to do with crashin a machine. It's got everything to do with a lazy operator what needs to go on down the road.
I been programming machines since the late 70's. Everyone in my shop knows that I don't miss feed rates by much. I spent a lot of time in my ill spent youth optomizing code on CNC machines to get em to run. Everyone in my shop knows that if they got an idea to bring it to me or my shop forman and we'll address it.
I'll bet you a dollar that the OP's question revolves around an employee that is doggin the job.
Most these kids don't get the fact that if you hustle and make your boss's company money, the company will reward you. At least that's how it is at my shop. My employees are my biggest asset.

[cam1]

I agree PBMW, keep the employees that have a work ethic thats aligned to your requirements, and get rid of those that don't. However, treat employees as children....they will act like children. I still stand by my conviction to leave the lockout alone, and deal with the root cause....

regards

[PBMW]

You know, I think we're sayin the same thing. I'm not in favor of using lockouts or edit keys or any of that stuff. The operators should know not to get to messin round in the program. I've worked in shops where the operator will get to pushin buttons "editing" the program to DEATH. Never get anything done but he was makin it better.....
You're right though, treating operators like children causes them to act like children.

[automizer]

reading all this is interesting, I work in a shop with 16+ machines 2 guys who can read code 2 who can push the button and 1 who is in the middle and the common joke is we are all slaves to the green light when it blinks we must answer. I can't see being so lazy you want to slow it down, I feel guilty standing there for the last min of the cycle because all my deburing is done.