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Old 10-04-2007, 09:15 PM
 
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Large Files and a VF-1 2002

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We're machining small organic shaped molds for composites, and the files are quite big. Everything seems to be good if I keep the max file size to about 20MB. I do however have to change my filter tolerances to get my files down to this size.
At the moment I send the file straight to the machine via Ethernet.

How can I use larger file sizes?
Can you drip feed with Ethernet?
Do I need another software?

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what machine do you have and what year? Haas has a built in capability to do DNC for large files. The Web site has a good help tutorial on using hyperterminal. I have personally dnc files up to 7 mb with no problems. Our VF3 only has 1 meg of memory. Just make sure to delete any uneeded programs from your memory. This frees it up for more efficient DNC usage
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The Machine is a VF-1 and it's year is 2002. I'd like to be able to machine files that are 40MB+

Can I upload 2 x 20MB files and run them together?

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Old 10-05-2007, 01:22 AM
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RS232 & Drip Feeding Info: See Attached
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Thanks Jarwalcot

So I guess this means RS-232 is my only option. Is there a way to drip feed through Ethernet?

Call me crazy but I have to ask, why can I put 1000MB on my $20 memory stick in seconds but my $60K machine will take a fraction and it takes OOHHH so long??


Maybe my machine is OLD?

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I wonder if they could field-retrofit a hard drive for you.
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..... Maybe my machine is OLD?

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In computer time, yes, positively ancient . Which is really frustrating sometimes.
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Didn't the ethernet option come with a hard drive?????
I thought it did.
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Now there's a question that shows my Newbieness.
I'm not sure. We have had the machine for a couple of months and it's our first. Everything seems to be going nicely except when I try to upload files larger than 20MB.
Do I have a hard drive? How do I tell?
In my programs when empty it states that I have 98% free (16555452 Bytes). Does this mean I have a hard drive?

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...Do I have a hard drive? How do I tell?.... Thanks
I have a 2005 machine with ethernet, hard drive and USB port. When I go to the List Program page these are all listed down the lefthand side of the screen with the contents of whatever is selected shown on the right.
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frogger:

Your memory internal to HAAS appears to be 16 megabytes. When HAAS loads a program into memory as contrasted with "drip feeding", then if the space is available your program may get successfuly loaded into program memory space. But there has to be sufficient space for the entirity of your program. The external size of a program, meaning in your computer, in some cases can be somewhat larger than what HAAS displays as available memory. This is because HAAS may compress some of your program code as it is being loaded. This correlates with your problem.

If you break your program into smaller files, then you can load and run the first program. Then delete that program from HAAS, load the second program, and so on. At the beginning of each program there must be whatever start-up is required. Also need ending stuff in each program

If you drip feed, DNC in HAAS's and my definition, then you can run the larger programs without breaking them up. Read the manual on how to drip feed from Ethernet.

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