File Upload from Disk

[Big"E"]

We just got our first Haas in our shop the other day, but we are having problems taking the program from M.C. X to the machine. We are using the floppy drive, but when you open the file there is no code.

Here are the things we have tried so far:
Wrote the spindle warm program to the disk and back (so there shouldn't be any problems with the drive)
Made sure the program name started with a "o"
Program has a "%" sign at the beginning and end
Tried both .NC file (created directly from M.C.) and also a .txt file
When you press F4 it shows the file on the floppy but we just can't get it to upload.

Any suggestions?

[WITOMCIO]

Well, F4 loads disk directory not the programs.
Save the program on your disk under a name like 10.nc
Goto LIST/PROG option
write 10.nc and press F3
that should work

[Big"E"]

Thanks for the suggestion but we have tried that with no success.

Here are the first couple lines of the code in case there is something wrong with the format.

%
O5197( TENSIONER PLATE 3-11-07 )
( DATE=DD-MM-YY - 11-03-07 TIME=HH:MM - 17:50 )
( MCX FILE -

[Geof]

Is it a new machine or an old machine? Older Haas machines use a four number program name O1234, and new machines a five number name O12345

If you have the wrong name format programs will not load.

Also if you have an old machine and the name O5197 is correct you can try making the comment shorter; put it on two lines. I had problems with an old Haas because long comments got cut off and generated an alarm.

[WITOMCIO]

Looks good,if got it from CAM post without any manual changes , I would say program is OK.
Another way,
Press EDIT, then F1, then left arrow to go to I/O menu.Go down to Disk directory using arrow, press WRITE,using arrow pick your program, press WRITE.
Maybe thats the way.

Change floppy disk to another one just to be sure.

[Big"E"]

It is a Haas '00 VFOE (the tech at Haas said the software has been upgraded to the highest level avaiable for the machine, if that matters I don't remeber the exact version).

I did try the edit and loading it that way, and the only difference there is the file comes up with an error "bad code" (I think that is the exact phase) the bottom line there was it reject the file immediately, we as the disk read procedure put the program name on the screen and when you press the edit key there is simply nothing there.

Yeah, we tried a couple different floppys also, did a complete format to make sure they were clean.

M.C. first generated the code using a file name of o0 and we tried that first with no success either. I was holding off on using the 232 port, but it appears that I need to go ahead and set up the P.C.

[gar]

070314-2048 EST USA

Big"E":

Cut and paste ( no do not cut and paste I had problems with this). Hand compose the following program in Wordpad, then save to a file name TEST.NC on your floppy. Must save as Text Document - MSDOS format. Wordpad is found under PROGRAMS, ACCESSORIES. May end up with .txt for extension. This doesn't matter. Put HAAS LIST PROG (program list) at ALL for loading. This will cause the file to load at the Onumber in the file.

%
O3005
(This is a test)
M30
%


All files on floppy probably must follow the MS DOS 8.3 format. You should be able to use up to any 3 character extension. I believe HAAS has some filename limitations beyond MS DOS limits.

I did not load this thru a floppy but thru RS232 for my test. This provides a very simple program you can play with for loading. Add any valid CNC code between "this is a test" and the M30.

If you get this to work, then copy a portion or all of your Mastercam program into this file and try loading it.

edit

Geof's comment is correct. The big problem is saving a program on a new machine produces a 5 digit Onumber. In other words a file loaded as O3005 on a new machine will be saved as O03005. HAAS should have left the leading zero off and there would be no compatibility problem. O03005 won't load on an old machine. However, a 4 digit Onumber from an old machine will load on a new machine.

That comment length limit constantly causes me problems. Another problem on older machines is a % inside a comment is an end of file. Corrected between 93 and 2000.

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[Geof]

It is a Haas '00 VFOE (the tech at Haas said the software has been upgraded to the highest level avaiable for the machine, if that matters I don't remeber the exact version).

I did try the edit and loading it that way, and the only difference there is the file comes up with an error "bad code"

Your four number name is probably wrong if they upgraded the software. Just change the name to O followed by five numbers.

[WITOMCIO]

If you figure out what's happening let us know. Who knows , maybe it will happen to someone.
There is just one thing that bugs me.How come spindle warm program works?
Aren't you missing one of the ")" somewhere?

[gar]

070414-0933 EST USA

WITOMCIO:

Missing parens always produce an error code indicating such. This also occurs on too long comments even though the right paren is present.

Geof:

On all of our newer machines I have been able to load 4 digit Onumbers. I think you should be able to drop leading zeros in any Onumber and have it load. It is just when HAAS saves a program they add the leading zeros. All our new machines are still in critical use and I can not play with them now.

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[ltmquik]

Highlight the program on the Floppy Disk. Press enter or write. Cursor up to memory, right cursor over and press F2. That should write the program to the memory. Although, our machine is an '06 with hard drive.

[gar]

070315-0704 EST USA

ltmquik:

I believe that Big"E"'s first post indicated that he could load a program from floppy as proved by saving "spindle warm up" to floppy and then reloading this to HAAS.

There may be some questions as to exactly what he did. For example was the Onumber in the saved file on floppy changed to a different number before loading, or was the warm up program erased on HAAS so as to know for sure that it was reloaded?

To avoid loosing his warm up program I would prefer the technique of changing the Onumber in the file on the floppy.

Thus, if his saved and reload test was valid, then I believe that his problem is in the filename or the program content. Program content problems usually show an error code and maybe ??? in the received program.

However, there is no error code when a % is inside a comment on an older machine. You just do not get all of your file loaded. I believe the HAAS warm up program has % in a comment. Thus, if you load this to an old machine you have a problem.

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