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    Lightbulb Frankin Mill - Control upgrade? ALL HAAS TECHS WELCOME :)

    I have a 95 VF-2 Brushed mill. I happened to get a full control from a mill that was partially gutted. Software is 11.24. What I want to do is convert the control on to my older machine. This will give me all the software options in that control as well as allow 5th axis, VQC, RAM upgrade, faster serial, etc. Everything looks like it will transfer fine but I am not sure if I can control the VFD from the older 95 VF-2 as well as can I send the correct signals to the brushed amps. I do know Haas has the ability to run a brushed 4th axis with a special cable and transformer. I assume the transformer is for the 160 volt DC supply. This I already have. So my question is... Whats the pinout conversion? Then all I would need to do is plug in my parameters for the encoders and PID? Will it work with the other 3 axises? Are there any Haas techs out there that could answer these questions? I know this isn't for the faint of heart however I am determined to upgrade this machine. If the signals don't directly work maybe I can get some info on what they are and I can design a conversion board. I figured I would ask before diving in with a scope and reverse engineering it.


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    By "control" are you referring to the pendant with the keyboard and monitor or the electrical cabinet at the rear of the machine?


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    Quote Originally Posted by haastec View Post
    By "control" are you referring to the pendant with the keyboard and monitor or the electrical cabinet at the rear of the machine?
    +1

    We need a lot more information.
    What are the serial numbers? (You can PM me)


    Is this a correct summary?
    3 axis VMC = Brush
    rotary = ?
    New control = brushless
    Thanks,
    Ken Foulks


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    By "control" are you referring to the pendant with the keyboard and monitor or the electrical cabinet at the rear of the machine?
    By control I mean I have everything electrical on the machine other than the servos/ amps and the vector drive / spindle motor. This includes the pendant with monitor as well as the full CPU stack (main cpu, video/floppy, mocon) inside.

    The machine I will be putting this stuff on is a 95 VF-2 brushed machine. It has the motif (not mocon) board so the pinout is not the same however I am betting the signals I need might be or at least close enough I can make the conversion with little hardware. It has a Magnetek VFD on the spindle. It also has a gearbox. I also have a brushed rotary (4th axis)

    Here is what I have for pinouts on the mocon for the drive outputs.

    Example is X axis for encoder side (660)

    1 Logic ground
    2 Encoder A Channel
    3 Encoder B Channel
    4 +5
    5 Encoder Z
    6 Home limit switch
    7 Overheat switch
    8 Not used
    9 Not used
    10 Not used
    11 Not used
    12 Not used
    13 Not used
    14 Not used
    15 Shield
    16 NC

    Example is X axis for drive side (610)

    1 A Channel
    2 A Channel ground
    3 B Channel
    4 B Channel ground
    5 Drive enable
    6 Logic ground
    7 Fault
    8 Logic ground
    9 NC
    10 Shield

    Working on the Motif now. Here is what I have from my old notes...

    1(Blue) PWM
    2(White) Direction F/R?
    3(Brown) Direction F/R?
    4(Red) + 5 Volt
    5(Black) Over Current Protection Alarm (pulled low to suppress alarm)
    6(Green) Circuit Ground

    Maybe I can get some help on the motif side?


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