CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > MetalWorking Machines > Haas Mills


Haas Mills Discuss Haas machinery here!


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 02-19-2011, 05:41 PM
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 3
jts0311 is on a distinguished road
Question HAAS VF-2 TOOL LIST

I have a Haas VF-2 with a 20 tool capacity. The control seems to pair the tool and pot number (pot 1/tool 1, pot 2/tool 2........) even though there are 99 tool offsets on the offset page. This limits me to only 1 through 20 for all my tool numbers. My Okuma and Matsuura can take any number between 1 and 99 in any pot. Can anyone tell me how I can assign different tool numbers to any pot?
Reply With Quote

  #2   Ban this user!
Old 02-19-2011, 09:12 PM
Donkey Hotey's Avatar  
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 1,636
Donkey Hotey is on a distinguished road

Tool number does not have to match your offset number. There is a setting for H&T agreement that you need to turn off to do it. After that, you could specify Tool 1, Height 29, Diameter 72.

Why on earth would you want to do such a thing? Yes, I know all the old-school programming reasons but, nobody does that anymore, do they? I mean--I know how to start a fire with sticks--but, why would you?
__________________
Greg
Reply With Quote

  #3   Ban this user!
Old 02-21-2011, 10:12 AM
KenFoulks's Avatar  
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 511
KenFoulks is on a distinguished road

Setting 15 will allow mismatched tool numbers. Out of curiosity, what is your reason for doing this?
__________________
Thanks,
Ken Foulks
Reply With Quote

  #4   Ban this user!
Old 02-21-2011, 10:49 AM
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Paradise, Ca, USA
Age: 35
Posts: 533
Matt@RFR is on a distinguished road

Originally Posted by Donkey Hotey View Post
Why on earth would you want to do such a thing?
I've done quite a few parts that had 3D surfaces blend in to a flat face. I used a square endmill to finish the flat faces, and obviously a ball nose endmill to machine the 3D stuff. With the parts I make, aesthetics is everything, so those blends are extremely important to get just right. On rare occasion, I'll have to use two (or more) offsets for the same tool to get the blends to match in different areas of the part. Say one blend is in a weaker area of the part than another blend is, part deflection becomes an issue and instead of trying to figure out more complex fixturing for a one-off part, I just use another offset to tweak it all in. Besides, I don't think H&T matching is the OP's issue:

Originally Posted by jts0311
The control seems to pair the tool and pot number (pot 1/tool 1, pot 2/tool 2........) even though there are 99 tool offsets on the offset page. This limits me to only 1 through 20 for all my tool numbers.
This works on a SMTC, so hopefully it will work the same for you: To load T30 in pot 10, you have to go to the tool list (OFFSET>PAGE UP), arrow to pot 10, type 30 and hit enter. To verify, call up T30 in MDI and see that it is working correctly.
Reply With Quote

  #5   Ban this user!
Old 02-21-2011, 05:03 PM
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 3
jts0311 is on a distinguished road

I want to assign all, or most, of my tools in my CAM tool library with a their own number. That way all I can write programs and post them for any machine. No need to alter tool numbers for this machine or that one. Since I am dealing with over 75 different tools, I need to be able to enter those numbers into what ever pot I want.
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #6   Ban this user!
Old 02-21-2011, 05:58 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Paradise, Ca, USA
Age: 35
Posts: 533
Matt@RFR is on a distinguished road

Did you try what I wrote?
Reply With Quote

  #7   Ban this user!
Old 02-22-2011, 10:41 AM
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 3
jts0311 is on a distinguished road

Yes. I tried that. In my tool offset page the only thing that can be highlighted is the coolant position or the offset. There is nowhere to select POT. Any number I type will only change coolant position or offset.
Reply With Quote

  #8   Ban this user!
Old 02-22-2011, 12:14 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Paradise, Ca, USA
Age: 35
Posts: 533
Matt@RFR is on a distinguished road

From the tool offset page, press PAGE UP twice. Does that get you to a tool list that looks like the picture I attached? If not, then this is either only for SMTC machines like mine, or maybe it is year dependent. Don't know what to tell you beyond I can do exactly what you're asking about, so I figured you could too.

On second thought, I have to believe you can do this, otherwise you wouldn't have more than 20 available offsets. You just need to find the right page.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	0222111010.jpg‎
Views:	59
Size:	110.9 KB
ID:	127146  
Reply With Quote

  #9   Ban this user!
Old 02-22-2011, 01:13 PM
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 35
cbr_speedster is on a distinguished road

We had a Mori Vertical that held 40 tools and the offsets went to 200. Next to the machine was a cabinet that held 180 standard tools that used 180 offsets. My program might only use 25 tools from the cabinet but they were loaded in numerical order of how they were used in the program.

Tool 1 / Offset 100 (4" Sandvik Mill)
Tool 2 / Offset 6 (1/2" Carbide Drill)
Tool 3 / Offset 10 (.625 Carbide Drill)
Tool 4 / Offset 16 (1/8" Carbide Engraver)
etc. etc.

The Tool length offset didn't change unless the tool was changed from wear or breakage. Some tools would last longer than others and not need updated for months. This greatly reduced setup time not having to build up tools and set Z offsets. Once in awhile we might need a tool other than Standard and in that case used one of the Non-Standard offsets from 181 to 200.
This worked great for us and it was very easy to implement.
Reply With Quote

Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tool List For Haas Post Processor R&D Post Processor Files 2 09-16-2011 10:46 AM
Build Thread- Tool list jeffliu2 GibbsCAM 4 11-10-2009 06:23 AM
Printing tool list kevinb FeatureCAM CAD/CAM 5 03-24-2009 08:26 AM
List of Haas G codes? rawen2 Haas Mills 3 09-12-2008 08:27 PM
Haas parts list rattlesnake363 Haas Mills 0 08-10-2005 09:38 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:15 PM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361