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    NPT Rigid Tap?

    I'm assuming rigid tapping of NPT in aluminum is ok?

    Anything special I need to know?

    This will be done on our TM-2, FYI.

    Thanks

    Tim


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    No differant than any other tap , but (there's allways a but ain't there) it will depend on how big npt I would think before it would stall out the spindal on a tm-2. Can tap 1/2 npt in aluminum on are ec-500 but it's pushing it
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    I have stalled a Super MiniMill trying to tap 3/8" NPT. The way I eventually managed to get some holes tapped was peck tapping going in less than a thread per peck.

    And I held my hand ove r the E stop button just in case it stalled.
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    That really surprises me, have done a lot of rigid tapping but no NPT, would not have even crossed my mind that it would be very iffy on a TM.

    What was the rpm?
    What lubricant?

    Thanks
    Ken


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken_Shea View Post
    That really surprises me, have done a lot of rigid tapping but no NPT, would not have even crossed my mind that it would be very iffy on a TM.

    What was the rpm?
    What lubricant?

    Thanks
    Ken
    1000 rpm and extra rich water mix coolant. The thing with NPT taps is they are cutting on the full length because of the taper, regular taps are only cutting on the leading few, one or two, threads. Hand tapping NPT is hard work especially 1/2" and above.
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    Interrupted thread tap will help lighten the load
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    In production one does not have the time to coddle machining processes, but if you did, would a specialized tapping lube be of help, like Tap-Magic for example.

    You mentioned it stalled your machine, what method were you using to hold the tap?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken_Shea View Post
    In production one does not have the time to coddle machining processes, but if you did, would a specialized tapping lube be of help, like Tap-Magic for example.

    ?
    tap oil is a major help , it cuts down the possibility of thread tearing a lot , but so do the interrupted thread taps I mentioned above , spartap makes an awesome oil
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    Just did a little search on interrupted thread taps with NPT, appears to be no down side.

    Tapered Pipe Tapping With Interupted Thread Taps on Vimeo


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    Just looked,
    Actually have two sizes of that exact thing in 1/8 and 1/4, straight flute but still an interrupted tap, will have to try those and see how it goes.


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    I don't recall ever using a straight tap like that , but it should work especially nice on deep holes , I find the pipe taps tend to not pack up as badly with chips and crap , which is most of the cause of spindle load and thread damage
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    Interupted NPT taps are nice for aluminum and other soft materials, just don't use them on hard materials = snap!

    Someone mentioned 1000RPM - that's way to fast to tap with NPT! Normal speed for Aluminum would be around 100RPM or less if tapping 1/2NPT or bigger.


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