CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > MetalWorking Machines > Haas Mills


Haas Mills Discuss Haas machinery here!


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 11-05-2010, 07:44 AM
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: zimbabwe
Posts: 2
adamsaiyad is on a distinguished road
HAAS toolroom TM-2 link to pc Confused

Hello everyone,
I hope i can relay this information correctly and hopefully get some advise on here.
We have a Haas toolroom Mill TM-2 please forgive me i am a it consultant....
I have a little knowledge in tooling and CNC machinery.
Any ways here goes.
We have a drawing guy that makes up drawings in 3D on Autocad 2007.
Now when these are done they are printed out and then entered manually into our TM-2. This can take up to three days.....

So the owner of this small company has asked me for help in making this whole process faster.
Firstly we have ordered a comport cable from Southern africa and it never arrived so i have made a cable to suite and has been tested and is working .

Secondly we need some form of program to get the information off the Drawing machine to the TM-2 Machine how and what can we use?????

This machine is a windows Xp based computer with Service pack 3..
It has a com port onboard
It also has Autocad 2007

But thats about as far as my head can go in terms of joining these two computer driven devices ?

How do i get the computer to talk to the TM-2
How do we relay the drawing file to The TM-2 Haas machine

please can any one help.

We dont need the lastest software that costs alot we just need a simple and possibly cheap solution that can facilitate this whole process saving us three days of data entry into the machine via the control panel on the right hand side??

Hope to hear your responses.

Kind regards
Adam Saiyad
Email : Adam@yoafrica.com
Reply With Quote

  #2   Ban this user!
Old 11-05-2010, 09:22 AM
Donkey Hotey's Avatar  
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 1,636
Donkey Hotey is on a distinguished road

Originally Posted by adamsaiyad View Post
Secondly we need some form of program to get the information off the Drawing machine to the TM-2 Machine how and what can we use?????
What you are missing is a type of software called CAM software (Computer Aided Manufacturing). Mastercam, BobCAM, SurfCAM, Esprit and others are common types of software and most of them have forums on this site.

Unfortunately, it is not an automatic process. You don't just convert the Autocad drawing and send it to the machine. A programmer will have to import the Autocad file, then program each setup that will be run on the machine. They won't be programming every little point move but, they will still have to tell it which tool to use, what lines to cut, how deep, how fast, how many RPM.

It is much faster than hand programming but it is not automatic and does take some time.

The next problem is going to be learning the software. There is a lot of learning associated with CAM software. It is more difficult to use than Autocad. Not only does the user need to be familiar with using the software but they also have to have the knowledge of a machinist. You can't just take a guy who is good with Autocad but, knows nothing about machining and expect to get good programs.

The last concern is price. CAM software is very expensive compared to what the company is probably used to with Autocad. BobCAM is the only inexpensive program that I listed and from everything I've heard, it is terrible software. I think it is $1500 US. Mastercam is the most common piece of CAM software. It sells for around $16000 US.

That should get you started with a bunch more questions.
__________________
Greg
Reply With Quote

  #3   Ban this user!
Old 11-05-2010, 11:46 AM
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: zimbabwe
Posts: 2
adamsaiyad is on a distinguished road

this is brilliant just what i needed .
right so that cam software is the first step.
the programmer knows tool speeds and can plot so i can only presume he and the autocad specialist should work hand in hand to try figure out the tool path, tool speed and tool depth.
is there specialist courses out there for this type of thing ??
its really interesting and because ive always loved engineering this really inspires me.
i need to ask what type of program does the conversion for the drawing tool path and speed etc that thhe user has to plot in ??

i know mastercam can talk to the haas machine but is this all thats need to complete the process ??
Reply With Quote

  #4   Ban this user!
Old 11-05-2010, 11:50 AM
Donkey Hotey's Avatar  
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 1,636
Donkey Hotey is on a distinguished road

The Autocad file goes right into Mastercam. In Mastercam, the user creates all of the toolpaths that they want to run. When they are done, Mastercam creates standard G-code instructions that load directly into the Haas. Other CAM programs are similar.
__________________
Greg
Reply With Quote

  #5   Ban this user!
Old 11-10-2010, 06:03 PM
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: South Africa
Posts: 2
winey is on a distinguished road

Hi Adam

Have u a usb port on ure controller , if so convert ure drawings from dwg to dxf in normal 2D drawings. Then u can do the neccessary programming on the controller.
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Haas Tl-1 Toolroom Lathe DEAN Haas Lathes 101 02-22-2011 10:21 AM
ABOUT HAAS Toolroom mill 1H marto74 Haas Mills 8 09-12-2009 01:06 PM
Need help on a Haas TL-1 Toolroom Lathe tidle73 Haas Lathes 24 11-05-2008 08:49 PM
Haas Toolroom Lathes Revisited 61SedanMan Haas Lathes 1 11-11-2007 08:17 PM
FS: 2006 Haas TM-1 Toolroom Mill Edster Haas Mills 7 01-22-2007 09:20 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:48 AM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361