Is Haas the industry standard for CNC machines in America?

[AndrewJP]

Is Haas the industry standard for CNC machines in America?

[Pondo]

I don't know if there is an industry standard for machines. It all depends on what you are looking to do with it and the price. Mechanically there are better and there are cheaper, but Haas is the best all around machine I have found. You get the best service I've ever seen and they are better machines than you could find for anywhere near their price. Their controllers are user friendly and their Quick Code is very useful, plus they have a lot of nice features that a lot of controllers don't have.
Makino is a better machine, but costs 2-3X the cost or more. Fadal and Bridgeport make similar priced machines, but Haas is a way better built machine.
Industry standard? Maybe not in all measures, but I'd say they were the industry standard in value for your dollar.

[Dan B]

We have found their service to be expensive. I could spend less traveling in a limo then it cost to have them drive down for service. I guess if you have local support that's great, but if we call it's $1000 just to show up!

Dan

[littlerob]

Industry standard? Do we guage the value/quality/acceptability of machinery in the "industry" to Haas? NO!

P.S. I love VF

Robert

[Ydna]

Depends if you're talking about the standard of quality, or the standard of sales!

[djr76]

Originally Posted by Dan B We have found their service to be expensive. I could spend less traveling in a limo then it cost to have them drive down for service. I guess if you have local support that's great, but if we call it's $1000 just to show up! Dan

1000$? that seems far fetched, you live in the arctic circle and they need a bush plan to reach you? Maybe you should talk to the factory about your HFO price gouging.

[l u k e]

I was quoted $1000 to level my VF2, I guess I'm cheap because I thought that was too much...

[hercules]

It costs me a hair under $500 just to have them show up for service. Only half of your $1000 cost yeah, but still steep in my book. Their phone line help has been very good, and free. I find the equipment quality and price combination to be an excellent overall value. As we grow I'll be buying more equipment from Haas.

[haastec]

I am sure each region has their different pricing structures, but for the most part the rate for Haas service is very comparable to other brands. And to those who have $500 to $1000 to just show up, how far are you to the HFO? What is your time and money worth to drive 4-5 hours only to work on something for a couple of hours; time is money as all of you know.

There is no industry standard. As was said before Haas is a great value and overall packaged machine; there are better and there are worse.

Buy what you like, what you can afford, and what fits your work.

[AndrewJP]

What I really meant to say was, Is Haas the most widely used CNC machine in U.S.A. as far as CNC lathes and mills go.

[underthetire]

Originally Posted by AndrewJP What I really meant to say was, Is Haas the most widely used CNC machine in U.S.A. as far as CNC lathes and mills go.

For start up shops, probably. Once a shop gets to advanced machines like LPP systems or high function lathes, no. It also depends on part tolerance etc. Haas are everywhere, they are a good low end machine. They are reliable, and contrary to other opinions on here, parts are cheap to buy. They usually have good service, and yes, even when I was an independent, I charged a minimum. It wasn't 1K, but I had a business to run. My only complaint with Haas is they REALLY play the lost leader card. So I can buy a 20X40 machine for 60K, great!, Then by the time I add a reasonable warranty, side mount tool changer, 10K RPM, a chiller so my 10K rpm spindle will maybe last, a work light, etc...it was only 10K more to get a Mori with everything already on it..Just my .02.

[AndrewJP]

Well if you can get a mori seiki for just 10k more after you add on all the extras then why not get the mori seiki.