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Old 07-16-2010, 12:08 PM
 
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Bring table to center

I would like to jog my table backe to x -20.00 y .00 after in machine my part to unload it, here is the last lines of my program

N210 G1 Z-.05
N220 G0 Z.5
N230 M5
N240 G91 G28 Z0.
N250 G28 X0. Y0.
N260 M30
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and I am using a G55 work offset.

please advise I am a newbie to Haas
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:14 PM
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Try this?

N210 G1 Z-.05
N220 G0 Z.5
N230 M5
N240 G91 G28 Z0.
N250 G90 G53 X-20. Y0.
N260 M30
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Still goes back to machine x0,y0
what now?
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Just on line
N249 G0Z4. Put what number that you want the Z to clear your work
N250 G0X-20. Y0. This will Rapid to this point
N260 M30

Remove The G91G28 stuff

If you want it to jog back do it as G1X-20.Y0.F20.
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N210 G1 Z-.05
N220 G0 Z.5
N230 M5
N240 G91 G28 Z0.
N250 G28 X0. Y0.
N260 M30


This is the way we do it.


N210 G1 Z-.05
N220 G0 Z.5
N230 M5
N240 G53 G00 Z0.
N250 G53 G00 X-20.0 Y0.0
N260 M30

We have never used G28 at the end. The G53 is the distance and direction from the machine zero. So X-20.0 puts the table in the center of a 40 inch travel, the Y0.0 puts the table at the outside edge and the Z0.0 puts the head all the way to the top. Be sure there is a decimal point after whole numbers. This is a Haas requirement and can be a PIA to find if you have a problem that was written by hand.
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G91 G28 Z0. is basic home movement in Fanuc controls. It does work fine in Haas controls, but a better option is G53 Z0. The G53 is non modal and is only active in the block it is in. The G91 is modal and needs to have a G90 after it to go back to absolute. The G53 offset is always the machine 0 point, so G53 X-20. Y0. will get you to where you want to be.

The N249 G0Z4. N250 G0X-20. Y0. example above will put you over your G55 Y0. and 20" to the left of your G55 X0. - I don't think that's what you were looking for.
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On the Haas G53 is not tied to any other coordinate system. It is distance and direction from machine zero. The X numbers are in the range of zero to minus 40.0 on a 40 inch "X" machine and zero to -20.0 on a 20 inch "Y" machine.
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The G53 offset is always the machine 0 point, so G53 X-20. Y0. will get you to where you want to be.
Nope, evidently not. I had this misunderstanding a couple of months ago. G90/G91 still affects G53 moves. Yeah, that's really stupid but, that's the way the control treats them.

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Where is your G55 X0. in relation to center of table?

G28 G91 G00 Z0. Y0.
G55 G90 G00 X(whatever the distance is from G55 X0. to center of table)
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Originally Posted by Donkey Hotey View Post
Nope, evidently not. I had this misunderstanding a couple of months ago. G90/G91 still affects G53 moves. Yeah, that's really stupid but, that's the way the control treats them.

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I see - that's a new one to me. G91 disregards the WPC called out, so I guess it would not matter if it was G54, G55, G53, or whatever. I don't think I've ever run a post that mixed G91 G28 homing with G53's. It's always one or the other.

This is what I do when posting from MasterCam like Djr76 does, since it posts the G91 G28 home positions in Z and Y after each tool. I just handwheel it to where I want it for part changeover and add the X move.
G91 G28 G00 Z0.
G91 G28 Y0.
G90 G00 G54 X(whatever the distance is from G54 X0. to center of table)
M30

For the Gibbs posted programs, I reference the G53 for the X move since the Z and Y home moves are in G53.
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G53

N250 G28 X0. Y0

Most of the time simply removing the X0. from that line of yuor progarm will leave your table about where you need it.

If I program it I put
G28 G91 Z0.
G53 G90 X-20.(X-26.0 in my case)
G28 G91 y0.
M30

To me G90 translates as "go there, right there and nowhere else".
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