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Old 06-26-2009, 02:14 AM
 
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SPINDLE DOESNT START AT G97 S600 M3

WHENEVER IT GETS TO THIS PART IN TH PROGRAM IT STOPS AND WAIS FOR ME TO PUSH START AGAIN ??? ANY IDEAS PLEASE.
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Have you tried putting the M3 on its' own line right after the speed call ?
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Post the program here. Also consider that if the spindle is going CCW for the previous tool it might stop before going CW. Granted this is a speculation. Also is there an M1 (Optional Stop) or an M0 (Program Stop) anywhere before the spindle stops??
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N1
( 0.031 RAD. 80-DEG. INSERT )
G50 S1800
G00 T101
G97 S400 M03 (****problem have to push start here****)
G00 X2.6 Z0.075 ( X* Z*)
G96 S900

( FACE )
G00 X2.6 ( X* )
G72 P101 Q102 D0.08 F0.007
N101 G01 Z0.01
G01 X-0.063
W0.02
N102

M01 (STOPS HERE AS WELL WITH OP STOP OFF)
M30 (DOESNT RESET PROGRAM )
IF I PUT THE M03 AT THE G96 IT STOPS AT THAT LINE

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Old 06-28-2009, 01:18 AM
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This is pretty ODD to say the least. Have you contacted HAAS about this?? I would give them a call to see if they have an easy fix for you.

You could place the M3 alone in a sequence block to see if it that will work.

I wonder if anyone else gas experienced this??

N1
( 0.031 RAD. 80-DEG. INSERT )
G50 S1800
G00 T101
G97 S400 (****problem have to push start here****)
M03(<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<HERE)
G00 X2.6 Z0.075 ( X* Z*)
G96 S900

( FACE )
G00 X2.6 ( X* )
G72 P101 Q102 D0.08 F0.007
N101 G01 Z0.01
G01 X-0.063
W0.02
N102
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Do you need the G97 to turn off "Constant Surface Speed " since it has not been turned on earlier in the program with a G96? This is how the top of our programs look.

O2397 (TEST 123)
N30 (WRITTEN 04-08-2009 07:36:27)
N40 (RETURNED 04-08-2009 14:45:43)
N50 G50 S3000 M42
N60 G54 G90
N70 G53 G00 X0. ( RESTART FACE & RGH TURN )
N80 G53 G00 Z-5.
N90 T101
N100 S2400 M3
N110 G54 G00 X5.5 Z4.25
N120 G41 G01 X4.7 Z3.825 F.05 M8
N130 X1.8 F.006

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Originally Posted by Jedi View Post
N1
( 0.031 RAD. 80-DEG. INSERT )
G50 S1800
G00 T101
G97 S400 M03 (****problem have to push start here****)
G00 X2.6 Z0.075 ( X* Z*)
G96 S900

( FACE )
G00 X2.6 ( X* )
G72 P101 Q102 D0.08 F0.007
N101 G01 Z0.01
G01 X-0.063
W0.02
N102

M01 (STOPS HERE AS WELL WITH OP STOP OFF)
M30 (DOESNT RESET PROGRAM )
IF I PUT THE M03 AT THE G96 IT STOPS AT THAT LINE
I was taught:
First turn on spindle:
G97S400M13(with coolant)
Position in X and maybe Z to immediately affect RPM with the next lines:
G50S1800 (RPM Limitation in CSS)
G96S900 (CSS value)
Now go face...

Of course that was Fanuc. This is Haas.
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Jedi,

There is nothing wrong with that code, it should run fine if that is a duplication of what's in the machine.
I have an 07 that ran fine for 1 year +/- then started doing odd things. It would run the program several blocks of information, and the highlighter on the monitor would be lagging behind several blocks of information. Also had other oddities without explanation. Had them come out and install a updated version of the control software, and that fixed the newly formed glitches. ( Had the foresight to call the problem in before the warranty ran out so it was a free service call.) If you have an old program for another job, load it and see if it functions the same, or plug same info in MDI and see if you get the same results. If so, I would suspect you have a software issue.

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G00 T101

What happens if you remove the G00 from the tool change line? Also what is setting 42 set to?

Originally Posted by tobyaxis View Post
This is pretty ODD to say the least. Have you contacted HAAS about this?? I would give them a call to see if they have an easy fix for you.

You could place the M3 alone in a sequence block to see if it that will work.

I wonder if anyone else gas experienced this??

N1
( 0.031 RAD. 80-DEG. INSERT )
G50 S1800
G00 T101
G97 S400 (****problem have to push start here****)
M03(<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<HERE)
G00 X2.6 Z0.075 ( X* Z*)
G96 S900

( FACE )
G00 X2.6 ( X* )
G72 P101 Q102 D0.08 F0.007
N101 G01 Z0.01
G01 X-0.063
W0.02
N102

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I am really curious about setting 42 (M00 after tool change) - I think this could be it.
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Originally Posted by Haas_Apps View Post
I am really curious about setting 42 (M00 after tool change) - I think this could be it.
How does this get changed without someone doing it manually??
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Setting 42

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How does this get changed without someone doing it manually??
It doesn't. People turn it on and then forget about it or someone else turns it on and does not tell anyone.
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