Engraving on Haas lathe

[cnc1968]

Just waiting for my DS30SSY to get here and wondering if I can engrave on pieces without the use of cam software. I know mills have G47, but I dont see it listed for lathes.

Thanks in advance for any help.

[KenFoulks]

CNC,
There are no canned cycles on a lathe for engraving.

[cnc1968]

The funny thing is that on the Haas website, under the lathe control page, it mentions engraving. Guess I will have to wait to hear back from my salesman.

[KenFoulks]

Engraving has been removed, thank you for pointing that out.

[gizmo_454]

Ken,

Dumb question, I guess. Why on earth would a company make a lathe, with live tooling, y axis, c axis, and a sub-spindle, knowing that many will want to engrave serial numbers, part numbers, etc., and not include the engraving canned cycle? Especially when said company already has the programs, parameters, etc., in use in their mills which use the same control! It almost seems counter-intuitive. No...down right silly!

Mike

[double a-ron]

Why on earth would you spend 150k on a machine and not spend another 10 on cam software to program it? Lets look at my stats:

Machine crashes before cam software-3
Machine crashes after cam software-0
Programming time before cam software-Too frakin' long
Programming time after cam software-Always less than 1 hour

I'd say the software is more valuable than the machine. Save a cnc machine, buy cam software!!!!!

[gizmo_454]

Why on earth would you spend 150k on a machine and not spend another 10 on cam software to program it? Lets look at my stats:

Machine crashes before cam software-3
Machine crashes after cam software-0
Programming time before cam software-Too frakin' long
Programming time after cam software-Always less than 1 hour

I'd say the software is more valuable than the machine. Save a cnc machine, buy cam software!!!!!

Not to start an arguement, but:

Why? Let's look at my stats:

Machine crashes before cam software-0 (bought machine new almost 5 years ago. Now has over 1.8 million tool changes.)

Programming time before cam software-Less than 1 hour on the most complex part we have made on our SL-10, using all available tool positions. Most programs are written in under 20 minutes, at the machine.

The only thing I use my cam software for is when there is a complex profile needing to be turned.

I'd say the programmer/setup guy/operator is more valuable than the machine.

My $0.02.

Mike

[Ydna]

Depends on the parts you're making. If there's a CAD model of it already I would never bother writing manual (since mastercam will post canned cycles). But if it's a part that only has a 2d print I'd do it by hand. Myself I do it that way so I don't have to deal with typos, more than anything else.

The G47 is useful but it's also limiting since you don't have much control over the way the engraving works, besides for size and depth. I've never actually used it on a customer part, prefer to write a macro to accomplish the same thing with my own letters...

[double a-ron]

There is simply no way you can write a dual spindle program by hand cost effectively. Especially if there is complex milling and surfacing involved. I just ran a 1mb program in my tl-15. It would take days to write it longhand, I did it in less than an hour. Would you program a mill by hand?

I guess if your doing simple 2 axis parts, cam software might seem unnecessary but, the poster was inquiring about a machine with one more axis than mine, and three more than yours. I would hope if he's dropping that kind of cash on a machine he's not planning on making stand offs and washers. I just finished 200 double sided wheel center caps. The front was domed and had the company's custom logo on it. The logo had to be 3 axis contoured into it which meant code like this:

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[gizmo_454]

I stand corrected! I always assumed a "lathe" was for turning applications. Even having a swiss screw machine, I never once considered the possibility for 3D profiling like a mill. I always thought live tools and Y axis would be nice for flats, cross holes, etc. I guess you learn something everyday.

Mike

[Matt@RFR]

Mike, check this out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBwvp4c1ftM&feature=related]NL2500 3D turn - YouTube

[Geof]

What on earth are you making, bolt together tree branches. Or prosthetics?