The work cube is very small with the live tooling. You will always have to end up moving the live tooling in front of the sub spindle to drill holes. On the plus side if you aren't using the sub chuck, simply remove it and get a few inches back. It takes about 3 min. tops to put it on or take it off. I wish we would have bought the TL-25 or better yet if they made a TL-15L. Also you have to buy special tooling to use the sub spindle, you can't just put boring bars and drill bits in tool holders backwards because there is no rear clearance on the turret. If you end up buying it let me know and I'll share more of my experiences and give you some tips. PM me your e-mail address and I'll send you real world photos of the clerance issues.