What sort of machine would manufactures be using?

[pikkipeople]

Originally Posted by joesz If it is die cast it is one crappy die, surface finish is horrible so it probably did come from China, I would guess sand cast which is a whole lot cheaper, it would require secondary machining operations but with China using slave labor and prisoners, labor is not a factor. The only problem is if they are made in China they are more than likley garbage and either wont fit or will break after a few uses. The products coming out of China are pure garbage and they don't care, they know most people will not bother to drive back to a store to return an item that only costs a few dollars so they flood the market with substandard garbage. Any one considering having parts of any kind made in China should reconsider, what good it is getting the parts cheap if they wont work or break after a few uses and don't forget it is a COMMUNIST country. A few years back trade with them would not have been allowed and it should be banned now. I would also ban any American company that moves its manufacturing over there from ever returning to this country. It is greed at the expense of American jobs and anyone that does it should be considered a traitor to this country and given the appropriate sentence that a traitor deserves, hanging by the neck. I Know way off base on this one it is just frustrating as an American manufacturer to see scumbags helping destroy our country to make a few bucks. If I ran this forum anyone helping to ship parts over seas would be banned from posting ,after all this is supposed to be an American site correct?

Hi Joese
I totally agree with you i share your ideas and thoughts only thing is that i am from australia and china is doing the same to us.
pikkipeople

[bahamim]

Hello

I am from Saudi Arabia . I am very interested of manufactures and machine but I don’t Know with witches contrary

I like to connect Germany because I was in Germany .

With best wishes

Tanks

Mohammed Bahamim

[JOHN PARSONS]

Originally Posted by joesz And for you math whizzes I started running machines at home when I was 10 years old dad had a machine shop in our house so again you open your mouths prior to engaging your brain. If you would read my post you would know it is not China I have the problem with but since you can not be bothered to read and comprehend what I say this has become pointless

You even spelled Fadal wrong on your website. http://www.szpakmfg.com
SZPAK MANUFACTURING WAS STARTED IN 1983 IN A SMALL BUILDING WITH ONE LATHE AND ONE VERTICAL KNEE MILL BY MYSELF MY FATHER MY MOTHER AND BROTHER.
So if you started machining at 10 years old, that means you are 39, not 48?
Which is it?
With your extensive experience working at your Daddy's shop your whole life, in Ohio, of all places, you sound like you know everything.
I bet you never heard of John Parsons.
I have worked at over 50 shops, mostly aerospace in Los Angeles.
I moved to Fremont, Ca. it's only 40% Chinese people here.
I didn't inherit my shop from Daddy either.
Good luck, Junior

[joesz]

Johnny 50 shops? sounds to me like you could not hold a job for very long in fact that must mean you worked several different jobs a year, not something to brag about if you ask me. If you applied at my shop I would not even consider you since you have shown such a history of not being able hold a job that is probably because all the machines you ran were junk though. How many times have I heard people blame their poor workmanship and incompetence on equipment or tools, a good toolmaker or machinist can make good parts on any machine it may take longer but it can be done . And for your info we all started the shop at the same time I worked full time to support the family while we were getting it going it was not daddy's shop I worked very hard as did my whole family to start this place from nothing. As far as hearing of you, sounds like you are pretty full of yourself no one has heard of you John you are not famous so get over it. You seem to think Ohio is some how less than the California area well John we were running machines in Ohio before California even had roads so you are also uniformed as to simple US history. Your guess as to my age well that does not even make sense so I don't know how to respond to it except to try to explain to you that maybe it was possible I was running machines long before I started the company. Do you actually think I started the company at 10 years old? .Johnny I am not really sure why you feel the need to make yourself sound so important, you might be better off just not saying anything I don't think you are doing anything except making yourself look bad. I don't really know what the 40% Chinese comment has to do with anything at all
And on top of that none of this had to do with the topic we were talking about so please either stick to the topic or go find some place else to post.
If you wish to keep putting yourself in a bad light feel free to do so so far you are doing a great job of it, and sorry I never heard of you I guess you are not as important as you thought you were.

[JOHN PARSONS]

Originally Posted by joesz Johnny 50 shops? sounds to me like you could not hold a job for very long in fact that must mean you worked several different jobs a year, not something to brag about if you ask me. If you applied at my shop I would not even consider you since you have shown such a history of not being able hold a job that is probably because all the machines you ran were junk though. How many times have I heard people blame their poor workmanship and incompetence on equipment or tools, a good toolmaker or machinist can make good parts on any machine it may take longer but it can be done . And for your info we all started the shop at the same time I worked full time to support the family while we were getting it going it was not daddy's shop I worked very hard as did my whole family to start this place from nothing. As far as hearing of you, sounds like you are pretty full of yourself no one has heard of you John you are not famous so get over it. You seem to think Ohio is some how less than the California area well John we were running machines in Ohio before California even had roads so you are also uniformed as to simple US history. Your guess as to my age well that does not even make sense so I don't know how to respond to it except to try to explain to you that maybe it was possible I was running machines long before I started the company. Do you actually think I started the company at 10 years old? .Johnny I am not really sure why you feel the need to make yourself sound so important, you might be better off just not saying anything I don't think you are doing anything except making yourself look bad. I don't really know what the 40% Chinese comment has to do with anything at all And on top of that none of this had to do with the topic we were talking about so please either stick to the topic or go find some place else to post. If you wish to keep putting yourself in a bad light feel free to do so so far you are doing a great job of it, and sorry I never heard of you I guess you are not as important as you thought you were.

ACCORDING TO YOUR PROFILE AGE, 48?
You were born in 1961,(Unless you lied on your profile)
According to your website your Daddy started the shop in 1983

So you were 22 years old and supporting your father when he opened the shop?

You are the typical owners son. Owners sons are all the same. Daddy makes all the decisions.

Everyone knows the more shops you work at, the more people you learn from, the more machines you learn, the more everything you learn.
Most shop owners that start their own shops alone, have worked at many shops. Most top notch machinists have worked at many shops.

You should see a CNC West article:

http://www.cnc-west.com/_old/IssuesF...%20Success.htm

I saw where you live on a map, you are way out in the sticks, not much of anything out there. Let alone any 100 man aerospace shops. From reading your posts, I just thought I would put my 2 cents in. By the way, John Parsons invented CNC.
But since there are no machining schools where you live, you would not know that.
You will always be the son of the founder.

[joesz]

It is called the inability to hold a job no good tool maker or machinist pops from job to job like that. You must either be so bad at what you do they keep firing you or your mouth which I am hearing in here gets you fired. You can keep your little jabs up all you want to I have forgotten more than you will ever know. Andy yes I supported my whole family to get this place going, what did you do? went from job to job getting fired. Please go away you are making a fool of yourself Johnny. No good machinist is in and out of jobs like you are they find a place that treats them good and they stay I would not hire you to sweep floors at my place you cant hold onto a job and that means there is something very wrong. My guess is that you are incompetent inexperienced and a blow hard I have seen your kind come and go I know exactly who and what you are and there would be no way you would ever work in a good shop for very long. Enough of you Johnny boy my time is better spent straightening paper clips than wasting it on someone like you I think you need professional help myself you have serious issues maybe that is why you can not hold a job little man.

[SBC Cycle]

Originally Posted by JOHN PARSONS You are the typical owners son. Owners sons are all the same. Daddy makes all the decisions. <snip> By the way, John Parsons invented CNC. But since there are no machining schools where you live, you would not know that. You will always be the son of the founder.

irony

By the way, John Parsons was the owner's son.

/irony