Results 1 to 12 of 12

Thread: How on earth can this be done??

  1. #1
    Registered
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    142
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0

    How on earth can this be done??

    This is a film prop im replicating actually, but ive hit a snag. There are these crescent shaped reliefs of the finger tip joints I cant seem to replicate. They arent perfect half-circles that can be done with a rotary table, they taper a bit toward the round. Its almost like someone machined a gradual V, then rounded it off. I wouldn't be skeptical of this needlessly elaborate process if the visual effects guys weren't so huge into making things as simply and easily as possible. I need your help in uncovering the possible methods I may simply not know about. Thanks to all!




  2. #2
    Registered rockcliff's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    canada
    Posts
    106
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    It's can sometimes be difficult to re-create a casted part with machining, but

    From what I can determine from your photo, without having the actual part in my hands,

    I believe the red circled section could be cut with a CNC Mill

    The blue section looks like it was cut on a lathe

    How on earth can this be done??-capturedd.png
    Rockcliff Machine Inc.
    www.rockcliffmachine.com


  3. #3
    Registered
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    142
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by rockcliff View Post
    It's can sometimes be difficult to re-create a casted part with machining, but

    From what I can determine from your photo, without having the actual part in my hands,

    I believe the red circled section could be cut with a CNC Mill

    The blue section looks like it was cut on a lathe

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Capturedd.PNG 
Views:	54 
Size:	242.4 KB 
ID:	150010

    Yes, ive made this part exactly except for that relief (on the lathe and mill). I do have a bit of info on the original part and it is actually machined, rather than cast. Yep, im stuck


  4. #4
    Registered fizzissist's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    3,023
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    My experience making movie stuff has been that they like it good, fast, AND cheap...but they'll go with good and fast most of the time.

    In front of the camera is one animal, behind the camera is a whole 'nuther deal.


  • #5
    Registered
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    142
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by fizzissist View Post
    My experience making movie stuff has been that they like it good, fast, AND cheap...but they'll go with good and fast most of the time.

    In front of the camera is one animal, behind the camera is a whole 'nuther deal.
    Yes, for sure! This is the finger tip of a Terminator, machined rather intricately, but simply from what I can tell from the rest of the hand- certainly not CNC stuff. I just cant see why they would go through the effort of making a complex curve on an obscure area if it werent done as an afterthought since it was easy. They could have made it a perfect concentric cut and it would look almost the same. Mysterious


  • #6
    Registered
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    canada
    Posts
    2,748
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    looks fairly straight forward to me. a end mill with a corner radius on a rotary table. it is an arc by the look of it for about 160 degrees, then carries on straight.

    so youd rotate it on the rotary table, then move in a linear axis to complete it.

    thats probably a terrible explanation haha. in the image the blue is linear axis motion, the red rotary table motion.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails How on earth can this be done??-prop_cut.jpg  


  • #7
    Registered
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    England
    Posts
    24
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    ihavenofish could have used the word tangent or tangential.

    Jon
    Sliding down the razor blade of life.


  • #8
    Registered
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    canada
    Posts
    2,748
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by JonS View Post
    ihavenofish could have used the word tangent or tangential.

    Jon
    i could have, but big words scare me.



  • #9
    Registered
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    England
    Posts
    24
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by ihavenofish View Post
    i could have, but big words scare me.

    Sliding down the razor blade of life.


  • #10
    Registered
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,271
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Get it close and file...

    bob


  • #11
    Registered
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    142
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by ihavenofish View Post
    looks fairly straight forward to me. a end mill with a corner radius on a rotary table. it is an arc by the look of it for about 160 degrees, then carries on straight.

    so youd rotate it on the rotary table, then move in a linear axis to complete it.

    thats probably a terrible explanation haha. in the image the blue is linear axis motion, the red rotary table motion.
    Oh I totally follow what you're saying, its what ive tried. The results were fairly bad, not nearly as clean as the original. I should probably pick up a round needle file here pretty soon and keep chugging at it....I just felt certain I missed an easier way to pull this off.


  • #12
    Registered
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    canada
    Posts
    2,748
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by SwampDonkey View Post
    ...I just felt certain I missed an easier way to pull this off.
    CNC



    i dont see any other better ways for manually cutting that curve. you need a nice precise rigid setup.


  • Similar Threads

    1. Earth Sheltered or Earth Bermed homes
      By Edwardo in forum Environmental & Alternate Energy
      Replies: 9
      Last Post: 07-12-2012, 06:01 AM
    2. Why on earth does emc not start?
      By CaptainVee in forum LinuxCNC (formerly EMC2)
      Replies: 12
      Last Post: 07-10-2011, 11:05 PM
    3. Need Help!- How on earth do you cut THK LM rail?
      By jimmyaz in forum DIY CNC Router Table Machines
      Replies: 14
      Last Post: 05-14-2011, 09:30 AM
    4. Earth Ground
      By LYN BYRD in forum Milltronics
      Replies: 5
      Last Post: 06-20-2007, 12:39 PM
    5. How on earth do I make this!!!
      By disinformation in forum G-Code Programing
      Replies: 14
      Last Post: 10-11-2006, 08:53 AM

    Posting Permissions


     


    About CNCzone.com

      We are the largest and most active discussion forum from DIY CNC Machines to the Cad/Cam software to run them. The site is 100% free to join and use, so join today!

    Follow us on

    Facebook Dribbble RSS Feed


    Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.