Need Help!- New to the USA

[groffus]

Hi everyone

I need some help please. I moved to Michigan from Ireland/U.K. I have been machining from around 1992. I have served an apprenticeship in machining and I went to school to study engineering. I was a member of the engineers union at home. However I would like to get my journeyman’s cards here in the states but anyone I ask seems to think I am crazy and no one seems to know how I go about getting recognised over here. I am working in a machine shop but they only want me as an operator and thus my wages reflect this.

Could someone please point me in the right direction to get my papers processed.

[Delw]

Originally Posted by groffus Could someone please point me in the right direction to get my papers processed.

INS????
Sorry just horsing around.


If I remember correctly there was a thread from a while ago about this very subject, I though I had read they quit doing that along time ago for NON UNION machine shops. Some union machine shops still do it. I am sure someone will chime in about it pretty soon.

Delw

[groffus]

thanks for the reply. i will just ask around.

i have a green card though

[Delw]

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/genera...licensing.html

I think this may be the thread.

[fizzissist]

Originally Posted by groffus Hi everyone I need some help please. I moved to Michigan from Ireland/U.K. I have been machining from around 1992. I have served an apprenticeship in machining and I went to school to study engineering. I was a member of the engineers union at home. However I would like to get my journeyman’s cards here in the states but anyone I ask seems to think I am crazy and no one seems to know how I go about getting recognised over here. I am working in a machine shop but they only want me as an operator and thus my wages reflect this. Could someone please point me in the right direction to get my papers processed.

There are so many good machine shops looking for good, qualified machinists, that a "journeyman's" card is probably irrelevant.

If you've got the qualifications for the job, it shouldn't take long with a qualified interviewer to tell if you're what they want or not.

To get a card here? Why. The time it would take to go through a program, the expense, and all for a card? If you already know it, it should be easy to show it. If you're in a position that can provide the opportunity to move up in the company from button-pusher/loader to something you're qualified for, it shouldn't take long. Fact is, the company will NEED you.

If the company doesn't offer that path, then you're in the wrong company to start with.

[DMF_TomB]

i have attended many night school courses on CNC machining at local Colleges.
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1) you can work on getting a machinist certificate in different types.

2) more importantly many schools have contacts on jobs or a area where students can see job postings from local machine shops. Some are looking for cheap operators. But some are looking for programmers or general machinist or tool and die, etc jobs. I have had a teacher in class ask if anybody was interested in a machinist programming job but everybody in class already had a job and everyone was there looking to improve or modernize there skills. average age of night school students was from 20 to 60 years old

[djr76]

I live and work in Michigan and have many friends in the field, none of which have a journeymans card including myself, its more of a thing of the past. As long as you can do what you say you can do, you should be good to go. If the shop youre in now just wants you to be a green button pusher, stay put for now, but in the mean time, look for programming jobs.

[RICHARD ZASTROW]

It probably depends which state you are located and/or are employed.

I live in the State of Wisconsin. The machinist apprenticeship and certification is under the Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development.

Back in the day, the UAW-CIO Machinists and Aerospace Workers Union had their own journeyman's card. However, the union card wasn't as highly regarded by employers as the state indentured journeyman's card. The union machinists card was more of a time on the job type of thing, rather than the varied experience requirements of the state card.

Dick Z