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Old 07-29-2010, 06:57 PM
 
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Can you help a noobie using strap clamps for the first time?

So the setup you are seeing is for me to cut several 2D parts out of the 2.5" 1018 steel bar stock that is secured. I am working with a Taig CNC mill. I am wondering if this setup (roughly) is the proper way to secure something with strap clamps. Both the top and bottom pieces being used to secure the bar stock are 6061 aluminum.








Would it be better to get rid of the top piece, putting the strap clamp directly on to the bar stock?

Would it be better to use steel instead of aluminum on the top, bottom, or both?

Is this entire setup rubbish, and there is a much better way for me to go about getting the material off the table so I can do through cuts?


I should also mention that the bottom pieces, although you can't see it, are secured to the tooling plate by 2 recessed screws, and there is a .03" deep pocket across the length for the 2.5" stock to fit in to for alignment, but it is not snug inside that pocket.

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Clamping onto the aluminum blocks shouldn't be a problem.

That long stretch of unsupported steel worries me. You really need some support under it. If you don't have any sacrificial material that you can rest on, consider placing some rest buttons at various points under the steel. This will help keep the steel from flexing from the tool pressure.
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Agreed. Sacrificial plate under the stock is best way. That setup may vibrate and knacker your cutter.

If the parts have holes in them you hold with clamps, drill holes, screw through holes, remove clamps and mill contours to finish.

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also be careful with cutting multiple parts out of a sheet like that, because the cutter will try to treat it like chips when it breaks free, and can break your cutter easily.
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another tip.... pennies will work just as good as your aluminum blocks if you are placing those just to not mark the steel
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I agree with the others, you will need support to keep down vibration and flex in that "Cold Rolled steel". Although it is mild and easy to cut it will also flex and vibrate and you might not get the finish you are seeking. Your clamping looks fine.
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Agreed, sacrificial plate and clampswith double sided tape to stop the cut out parts moving and chipping your cutter.

Your placement of the clamps is perfect.
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Ok, so after your collective comments and consulting with a friend who has a little experience with a mill, I think I am going to just have a piece of 4" wide sacrificial aluminum under the piece for support.



Would you all expect any problems with clamping force from only having those 2 relatively small strap clamps securing the work with a setup like this?
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Perfect.... you have the rear of the clamp slightly elevated and the clamping force is directly on the end of your clamp and the underside of your part is now supported.
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i agree with boots, looks good, ready to roll. just be careful when you get close to done with each part's full profile cutout.
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I often use 1/8" hardboard as a sacrificial support. It is dirt cheap and does the job nicely.

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Use mdf under it for support instead of aluminum or steel. Much cheaper than aluminum and easier on the end mills. Since you are cutting thru the depth shouldnt be critical. Personally I would leave it elevated with no support in the middle so the part would drop thru when cut free.
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