CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > MetalWorking Machines > General Metal Working Machines


General Metal Working Machines General discussions of all metal working machines from drill presses to band-saws.


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 09-19-2008, 07:04 AM
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: uk
Posts: 5
pinkminky is on a distinguished road
Thumbs down Fitting a door interlock to a Fadal

Hi , im struggeling to find a way to fit an interlock to a Fadal. The machine still operates when the doors are open. Causing health and saftey issues.
It is possible to fit an interlock thorugh the emergency stop switch , which puts a break on the spindle. But using this method would stop the machine each time doors are opened making it viable to have to jog the machine each time to stop the machine bombing out. This would waste alot of operators time.

Is there any other method of doing this?

Many thanks
Sarah
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #2   Ban this user!
Old 09-20-2008, 01:23 PM
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 106
BAD DOG is on a distinguished road
INTERLOCK

YOUR MACHINE CAME WITH ONE, OR HAS ONE ON IT AND IT IS DISCONNECTED.

LOOK ON TOP OF THE DOORS( WHERE THEY MEET WHEN CLOSED) ,,, THAT IS WHERE THE INTERLOCK IS LOCATED,,

CALL FADAL AND THEY WILL HOOK YOU UP.

BAD DOG
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #3   Ban this user!
Old 09-22-2008, 03:03 AM
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: uk
Posts: 5
pinkminky is on a distinguished road
Inter lock

Thanks for getting back to me.
The machine originally had a lock on it, but for some reason it has stopped working. Allowing the operator to open the doors mid cycle.

A Fadal engineer has been to have a look and reccomended wiring in a lock, connected to the e-stop. This is not a good fix !
There must be some electronic switch in the back that has broken or something that stops the lock operating. This is a very old machine,

Many thanks
Sarah
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #4   Ban this user!
Old 09-22-2008, 03:09 AM
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: us
Age: 44
Posts: 1,034
ZipSnipe is on a distinguished road

Originally Posted by pinkminky View Post
Thanks for getting back to me.
The machine originally had a lock on it, but for some reason it has stopped working. Allowing the operator to open the doors mid cycle.

A Fadal engineer has been to have a look and reccomended wiring in a lock, connected to the e-stop. This is not a good fix !
There must be some electronic switch in the back that has broken or something that stops the lock operating. This is a very old machine,

Many thanks
Sarah
All the mold makers I work with, had the interlocks disabled for a reason. So they could open the machine up while its running to make adjustments to airline or coolant lines without having to restart the machine up or reload the program. Does the door want to stay open?
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #5   Ban this user!
Old 09-22-2008, 08:12 AM
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: uk
Posts: 5
pinkminky is on a distinguished road

The doors must stay closed whilst in cycle. Health and safety issues.
Cheers
Sarah
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #6   Ban this user!
Old 09-25-2008, 04:41 AM
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: us
Age: 44
Posts: 1,034
ZipSnipe is on a distinguished road

Oh they keep them close, its just sometimes they need to open it for a minute to make adjustments. If they left the interlock attached to the sensor, it would shut the machine down each time the door would be opened. Not very profitable! The business(machine work in general) is just not healthy to start with. Are you guys milling brillium? Our guys wear respirators when working near that stuff, even if they open the machine for a second.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #7   Ban this user!
Old 09-25-2008, 06:41 AM
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: uk
Posts: 5
pinkminky is on a distinguished road

Hey,
If i had my way i would have them open to. But we employee not so skilled people to operate the machines (large production) so health and saftey is critical.
No Brillium just aerospace garde materials like ali, inco, s/steel.

Thanks for your help.
Sarah
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #8   Ban this user!
Old 09-25-2008, 08:36 PM
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: us
Age: 44
Posts: 1,034
ZipSnipe is on a distinguished road

What about just adding a magnetic catch? http://www.mcmaster.com/

Just type in magnetic catch
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #9   Ban this user!
Old 10-01-2008, 07:21 PM
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 135
MarkT is on a distinguished road

Sarah,

Actually the intial advice given you was pretty close to how many of the interlocks are wired on most machines. Most machines have a 24v DC safety circuit, the estop is found on this circuit also. When the circuit of the interlock is broken ( i.e. the door opens) the machine halts. Thats how they are desined to work. Are you asking what to do to replace yours that is missing, or just for a mechanical lock to keep the doors from opening?

Mark T.
www.cnccustomservices.com
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #10   Ban this user!
Old 10-03-2008, 12:26 PM
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: usa
Posts: 8
milldoe is on a distinguished road

employee better employees if they cant handle opening the door while the machine is running
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Door interlock bypass? gearsoup Mori Mills 6 12-09-2008 01:25 AM
Door Interlock override ? 18i-TB YARKONE Fanuc 5 06-22-2008 09:11 PM
Door Interlock hatchmar Fanuc 5 12-29-2007 07:52 PM
Okuma door interlock problem ktb100 Okuma 1 03-30-2007 12:31 AM
Door interlock? Edster Fadal 9 04-05-2006 06:13 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:13 AM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353