Removing Tooling

[Mooser]

I've always been in the habit of not leaving tooling in the spindle when leaving a machine for any length of time (day or two)

The notion was to not leave the drawbar (or pullstud) loaded and to take pressure off the collet/spindle interface and to help prevent them from rust/corrode/galvanic reaction with each other.

It's always served me well, just back off the bar and slip the tool out of the holder and leave everything loose.

Just wondering what everyone else does
Mooser

[Geof]

I have never worried, and have never seen any evidence of galvanic corrosion; unlike vises which stay bolted to the table fo months (years) at a time and leave great etch marks whenn they are removed.

Leaving the pull stud/drawbar loaded has never worried me. I draw an analogy; do you worry about putting your vehicle up on blocks every night to take the load off the springs? Do you worry that the bridge you drive over every day has to carry the load of its own weight all the time?

Don't worry

[rapidtraverse]

I've heard of some who use Anti-seize paste. These folks swear by the copper stuff.

[Mooser]

Originally Posted by Geof I have never worried, and have never seen any evidence of galvanic corrosion; unlike vises which stay bolted to the table fo months (years) at a time and leave great etch marks whenn they are removed. Leaving the pull stud/drawbar loaded has never worried me. I draw an analogy; do you worry about putting your vehicle up on blocks every night to take the load off the springs? Do you worry that the bridge you drive over every day has to carry the load of its own weight all the time? Don't worry

Where I live you jack up the car to take the wheels off every night so someone else doesn't

It's just a 20 year habit of removing the tools and wiping the spindle down when finishing a job. Like lowering the blade on the table saw when finished.
I was at another guys shop the other day and noticed that he had to give the drawbar a real snap to release the collet where on mine a very light tap usually does the job. The collet and spindle on his seemed in real good shape and he doesn't over-tighten it so I don't think it was abused or anything. Just thinking about if it made any difference...
Mooser

[fuzzyracing1967]

I'v allways had this habit to Mooser,but being the anal retentive that I am (Yes I admit it),I allso don't let parts tightened in chucks,vices,fixtures,or even tools in holders over a day(there are exceptions for tooling).I was just allways taught that if you wern't using something to take it out of what ever it is in,kind of a put things in there place kind of mentality.
but then again maybe I'm just crazy,so I'v been told

[Geof]

Originally Posted by fuzzyracing1967 .....I was just allways taught that if you wern't using something to take it out of what ever it is in,kind of a put things in there place kind of mentality.....

Many, many moons ago this is what I was taught; at the end of the day put the tools away, clean down the machine, sweep the floor, etc.

Then I started my own business and my time became my money. And time seemed to be always in short supply; probably because in the early years I sometimes had two 'day jobs' to pay the bills while running the business on the side.

Eventually it sunk into my brainwashed skull that if I stripped all the tools out of the machine, took the vise off, etc., at the end of the job (or day), and then the next job that I started needed the vise back on and some of the same tools, I had wasted all the time putting things away.

So I instituted a policy of leaving everything in the machine until starting the next job; if the things in the machine were needed for this job I had saved time, if they were not needed I took them out then.

[fuzzyracing1967]

Oh I wiil agree 100% Geof,time is money,and I hate to waste both.I will normaly have the whole month mapped out in addvance so the vices or the indexer or tooling or whatever is best used.I belive for me this way of thinking goes back to dad saying,(let the tool do the work,or take care of the machine).However now I got guys that don't care as much as I do running those machines,and you can see the wear and tear on them.Don't get me wrong I'll use the machine,tooling,what have you for what it's worth,but I think this way of thinking, of say not abussing things when there not being used has gone away.

[cam1]

I like to tidy up a bit at the end of the day, so that when I come in in the morning there is a sense of order. Tools that I'm done with are wiped down and put away.

just a way of doing things...

[fuzzyracing1967]

(I like to tidy up a bit at the end of the day, so that when I come in in the morning there is a sense of order)
I'm with you ,I like to see things cleaned up and put away.Nothing I hate more then having to go around and say, clean up there is a customer coming bye tomorrow! I just think this all goes together, take care of the tooling,machines,everything,and it will all turn out good for you.

[cam1]

I've had many a tour through our shop, and most people associate a clean organized shop with clean correct parts.(not a rule, but a philosophy) I did part of my apprenticeship in Germany, and cleanlyness and order were drummed in. Aside from learning how to use a file and to sharpen drill bits by hand, that was the next most important thing I learned from that experience.