CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > MetalWorking Machines > General Metal Working Machines


General Metal Working Machines General discussions of all metal working machines from drill presses to band-saws.


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 07-06-2006, 10:38 AM
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 249
WilliamD is on a distinguished road
Lathe advice...

I am currently retrofitting my IH mill for CNC. I want to get a lathe to compliment it. At first, I want to use the lathe to turn down the ends of the ballscrews I need. I see that this has a "bore" of 1 7/16", does that mean I can pass the 3/4" ballscrew threw it and machine the end? I'm sure I would have to find some way to support the other end, I just need to know if that's what it's for. It would be a year down the road, but I'd also retrofit the lathe for CNC also. But any opinions or advice on this lathe would be greatly appreciated!
Reply With Quote

  #2  
Old 07-06-2006, 10:50 AM
HuFlungDung's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 4,825
HuFlungDung is on a distinguished road

Yes, spindle bore is a very important feature of a lathe. The larger it is, the more convenient it can be for many kinds of work. Larger bores tend to have lower top rpm limits, because the bearings are larger, but in the size range you are talking about, this would not even become an issue.

A rear mounted 3 jaw chuck is handy to have on the outboard end of the spindle. On my Summit lathes, with 4.125" spindle bore, I made special backplates to clamp onto a section of the spindle that projects out the rear side of the headstock, then mounted a chuck on there.

The added weight of two chucks takes a bit more horsepower to ramp up, but the benefit of working on longer pieces of stock without resorting to a steady rest is worth it.

Still, there is a practical limit to the overhanging length of material hanging out the back end of your lathe. I suppose about a 12:1 length to diameter ratio works well enough for moderate spindle speeds and straight stock. Think safety: stay clear of the rear side of the spindle, keep people and obstacles away, in case you have an accident. The stock will bend to a right angle and flail (or kill) anything (anyone) that it hits.

I had an employee forget this with a 3/4" rod about 3 feet long hanging out the back end. It severely beat up a toolbox before he could stop it.

Another time, a fellow had a piece of 1.5" stock hanging out about 6 feet. It started out straight enough (so he says) but as harmonic vibration built up, that bar started to bend mightily. It rocked the entire machine off the floor pads. That is a 6000 lb machine.
__________________
First you get good, then you get fast. Then grouchiness sets in.

(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
Reply With Quote

  #3   Ban this user!
Old 07-06-2006, 11:31 AM
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 249
WilliamD is on a distinguished road

WOW! Thanks for the input, and warning. I definetly wouldn't do it very much, because I could definetly see that it would be potentially dangerous. But I'm thrilled to know that's how it works! Other than those ballscrews, the most it'd ever do is a 20" barrel. Only about 10 inches of it would be stick out anyway. Definetly weird to see 6 feet of stock hanging out the back end of a lathe!
Reply With Quote

  #4   Ban this user!
Old 07-06-2006, 12:56 PM
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 1,128
Mcgyver is on a distinguished road

HuFlung, neat idea on the outboard 3jaw. There are few thing as terrifying as when you think you've gone too far and length of steel bar is turn itself into a giant weed whacker. I've seen it start once or twice but managed to kill it in time - 1.5" whipping around! jeez that'll kill a regular man. You definitely want to err on the side of caution. William 1) "that's all i will ever do with it" - famous last words, and 2) even if it does stick out 6', its only dangerous at a certain speed. Even at 6', if you run it a 50 rpm with the stock resting on something, its not going to get out of control - maybe not a solution for production, but for a one-of its fine
Reply With Quote

  #5   Ban this user!
Old 07-06-2006, 01:24 PM
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 249
WilliamD is on a distinguished road

"Famous last words..." It's true, I thought the same thing about the CNC mill, but ideas just keep coming I'd never thought of prior to the CNC. I love this hobby. I'm thinking of getting into starting my own machine shop, but time will tell. Would anyone give a yea or nea on this lathe though? It definetly fits my size requirements, and then some. I don't think 2 HP is underpowered, but I guess that all depends. I just don't know if this is the kind of lathe that will hold .001" over 12 inches or not.
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:17 PM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361