Is anyone familiar with this machine?

[widgitmaster]

Is anyone familiar with this machine?

In a couple of days, I'm going to Daytona to look at this machine in action before I hand over the cash!



ROCKWELL LATHE SERIES 25-209 S/N 1560240

Specifications:
Swing over bed and saddle wings 14 1/4”
Swing over cross slide 9 1/8”
Center distance 41”
Spindle hole 1 3/8”
Spindle speeds, infinitely variable 40-1600 rpm
Spindle nose L00
Threads (inch) (54) 4-224 tpi
Feeds, longitudinal (54) .0017 - .099
Cross (54) .00089 - .052
Motor/electrics 220/440V 3 Phase
Currently wired 220V



Equipped with:
Flame hardened bed
Cabinet with chip and coolant pan
Quick change gear box
Thread chasing dial
8” 3 jaw chuck
4 way tool post
Live center





Eric

[widgitmaster]

When I looked at this machine up close, it was nothing but a new paint job!
All the handles had massive slop and backlash, the chuck was worn out along with the ways!

Then I looked at a Brand New BIRMINGHAM YCL1340GH lathe, 13x40" and bought it,
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Standard features:

Motor pulley
Back plate for 3-jaw chuck, 4-jaw chuck
Center sleeve MT-5
Change gear for threading
4 way tool post
3-jaw scroll chuck
4-jaw independent chuck
Steady rest and follow rest
Floor stand
Splash guard
Face plate 11-3/4"

Specifications:
Swing over bed 13"
Hold thru spindle 1 3/8"
Swing over cross slide 8"
Tailstock spindle travel 3 3/4"
Swing over gap 18 3/4"
Cross slide travel 6 7/8"
Width of gap 7 7/8"
Top tool slide travel 3 3/4"
Distance between centers 40"
Saddle travel 35 1/4"
Length of bed 65 1/4"
Headstock spindle taper MT-5 (Morse taper) D1-4
Width of bed 7 3/8"
Lead screw diameter 7/8"
Tailstock spindle taper MT-3
Feed rod diameter 3/4"
Range of spindle speed 8 speeds 70-2000
Thread per inch of lead screw 40
Main spindle motor 2 HP 220V, 1Phase
Thread cutting range 4-112 TPI
Net weight with 27" stand 1,110 lbs.
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along with this:
Used CHEVALIER MODEL FSG612 SURFACE GRINDER
This grinder has a fine pole electromagnetic chuck and a coolant pump!
Along with ball ways, really smooth!

And a used 6" Kurt Vise!
for a few grand!
Now my garage is really going to be crowded!

Eric

[mxtras]

So what's the low down on the BIRMINGHAM lathe? How would you rate the quality of the machine, the cleanliness upon arrival, the precision, etc, etc?

Would you give us a review of it once you get a chance to play with it?

We need answers, darn it!






Scott

[widgitmaster]

No problem, as soon as it arrives, and I play shuffel with the bridgport, lathe and surface grinder while trying to fit them all in a 9x25 section of my garage shop! (half of my two car garage) Then I need to fit all my toolboxes in there too!

Then I have to re-wire the whole garage, and find a 3-phase to 1-phase converter for the surface grinder! I just hope there is enough room in my breaker box to fit all the new circuits, as I really do not want to rip a hole in the wall to add an additional breaker box!

Then I need to make a long bar-feeder type support for the back of the lathe, to support those 6-ft acme leadscrews everyone is screaming for!

Then I need to build a 2x4 & plywood partition wall about 6 feet high down the center of the garage, as I must be able to bring my car in the garage during the hurricane season!

As for the Birmingham Lathe, the only problem i see so far is the inability to find a collet closer attachment for 5C collets! I would hate having to retrofit some old trash on to a new lathe!
The headstock on this lathe looks and sounds really solid, even at 2000 RPM it whines really sweet! It has a splash oil bath, which is nice and has an easy to see sight glass!

It just didn't make sense to buy an old clunker at the same price! At least it has a 90-day warentee!

Last but not least, i have a used 9x20 Jet lathe to get rid of!

Eric

[vacpress]

a surface grinder would be a dream!

[widgitmaster]

a surface grinder would be a dream!

The wearhouse in Daytona had a dozzen of them, all used and priced from $900 to $6,000, some needed repair, some were perfect! All sitting in a row on pallets!

What a neet place to visit! (i'll take one of everything)

Eric

[ZipSnipe]

Hey Widgit, I,m in Daytona, you must be headed down to that place in Port Orange oh Victor something or another , they sell a lot of big stuff like that. From that pic it looks sharp. If ya see the black At Home Glass van cruising by thats me....

[widgitmaster]

Yea, it was Sierra Victor Industries, they have a big eBay store, and several warehouses in Port Orange, FL http://www.sierravictor.com/


My new lathe and the grinder are scheduled to arrive on Tuesday 4/18/96
I have arranged to have a rental forklift delivered to my house in the morning, so that I can unload the flat bed truck! I have measured and marked the garage floor with a crayon as to the placement of the machines, and have ordered a heavy duty Phase Converter for 220VAC 1P to 220VAC 3P

This is an expensive little project, it will be nearly 6k before I'm done! Ouch !

[dmg1979]

Let me know if anyone needs a lathe - I sell new and used machines.

Thanks,

Dale

[widgitmaster]

Yesterday I decided to spend even more money, and ordered a double ball bearing live center with a M3 taper for the lathe's tailstock!

Then I finally found a BRAND NEW 5C collet clooser draw bar that will fit the lathe!
I have a small Aloris type quick change tool post from my old 9x20 lathe, which I will use untill I need a bigger one.
All I need to do now is wait till it arrives to see if I need to get a coolant pump system, and I'll be ready to make some "Blue Chips" !

Eric

[Enraged]

nice toys!