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Old 09-08-2010, 11:47 PM
 
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Is this possible to replicate by hand?

Hey everyone. I'm looking for some advice. I am in the process of building a custom r/c truck. I need to see if it is possible to replicate this kind of countersinking without bringing the piece to a machine shop.


This is a factory piece. It has the motor mount screw head area flat milled out. It has to be that style because the motor mount screw holes are slots to allow for adjustment.

The material I am using is .125 aluminum sheet. Unfortunately I have no clue what grade, (6061, 7075, etc) I got it from a coworker who's full time job is a machinist. Maybe it's neither, it is really shiny. Probably should ask him..lol Either way, is it something I can do on my own? Only thing I can think of that might work would be a router, but I don't have one.

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Old 09-09-2010, 12:50 AM
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You can do by hand, You can give to someone for water cut. Hardened aluminum is used in truck production mostly. Maybe You better take steel sheet.
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They're counter-slotted to keep the heads of the screws from being sheared off but I don't think it'd be that big an issue on a truck with plenty of ground clearance. Just use pan or socket-head cap screws.

That or ask the machinist coworker for a favor.
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Thanks for the response. It doesn't have much ground clearance, in the end it should be around 1.5"-2". It's geared more towards having a low center of gravity and being better suited for racing than the original truck layout is. The stock truck has over 4" of ground clearance to put it in perspective. I attached a pic to show what it looks like at the moment. This is still in mock-up, everything is just bolted to the sheet of aluminum. You can see only the cap head screws are sticking out. Main reason I need them countersunk is so they don't get hung up when landing jumps. But yea, shearing is also a concern there. By the way this has all been done with hand tools, a drill, hacksaw and a file. Haven't had to use the hacksaw yet.
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Am endmill at the very least should be used, but even with a steady hand, I think it might move around too much and ruin the piece. Good luck with the project.. What's the name of the truck? It looks like a traxxas from the first picture..
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Gotcha, yea I'm pretty sure I'm going to either find a local shop, or ship it out to one to get done.
The first pic at the top there is the underside of an Ofna 1/8 scale buggy, what I am making is a new chassis style for a traxxas t-maxx.
I also need a few bends done as well, so I may just stick with finding a local shop. 1 bend at 7* and 2 or 3 at around 30* Considering the thickness, I know it won't be accurate if I try by hand, and the 7* HAS to be very close if not perfect, so I need to bring it somewhere that has a bending brake or whatever they are called.
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Do you have a drill press? If so, you could lock the piece on the table and just plunge down using a large end mill. It would be circular instead of oval but it would probably work for your purpose.
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Just out of curiosity, what kind of ofna is it? I have one sitting in the garage that I am doing nothing with its a Ultra LX Comp.. If you want it, PM me and let me know.. It is in pieces because I use screws for other cars and stuff, and I have drilled up the chassis a bit, but let me know
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Originally Posted by mrcodewiz View Post
Do you have a drill press? If so, you could lock the piece on the table and just plunge down using a large end mill. It would be circular instead of oval but it would probably work for your purpose.
It needs to be slotted to be able to position and align the motor..
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Originally Posted by CJCNC View Post
It needs to be slotted to be able to position and align the motor..
But if the end mill is large enough, there would be enough room to accomplish the same task. The dashed circle is representative of the bolt head in this picture.


Edited to add - Depending on how clean it needs to be, you could also plunge with the end mill, reposition the plate, and repeat the plunge to get the oval.
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CJCNC- I believe thats the same one I have. Or something similar, Ofna has like 5 versions of the same buggy. It's been my donor vehicle. The only parts I would be interested in is the drivetrain.

I don't have a drill press. Yet. That's actually a route I hadn't thought of. I have been looking around for a drill press. I don't need anything fancy, it would only be used for hobby type stuff for now anyway, but would be much nicer to use then drilling and counter sinking all these chassis holes with a cordless drill. I've been eyeing up a few of the sub-$200 ones. Anyone have any recommendations?

Also, how much am I looking at for an endmill bit? I can't imagine it being very cheap. At the rate it's going it might just be cheaper to get it done somewhere. Basicly this is my prototype model, if this new chassis design makes the truck handle like I think it will, I will be making more of them to sell. So I'm not sure if I really want to blow $200+ for a drill press and bit that might only get used a few times. If it works out well, I would invest more money and get a better drill press to produce these.
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Just to see if its going to work for you, you could pick up a 1.2" chinese end mill for $5. You could probably pick up an older drill press off of craigs list for cheap. I did a quick check on my local CL and there are close to 50. Many for < $50.
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