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Old 12-23-2008, 06:37 PM
 
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power inverters/g-10 breakout boards

i've finally given up on the cnc masters controller. What apiece of junk. I'm going with a much bigger power supply and using the geckos from the cnc masters controller.
The only obstacle i see is finding out how to wire the power inverter to the g-10 breakout board. I've looked at the schematic for the board, and there is what appears, to me, to be a connection on the g-10 board for this. I'd like to get some advice before I tackle this one. I'm sure it's not that big of a deal, since cnc masters uses a wire that has a clip on the end that look imilar to that on a phone line.
I'm also curious how this will work with mach3, because, i'm also chnaging over to mach 3.

I just want to make sure i'm hooking this up right. I'd appreciate some help or just some good sound advice.
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The G10 breakout board requires 5 Volts DC for the TTL logic chips. I am not familiar with your machine, so I am not sure what you mean by the term "power inverter".

I will do some research and see if I can find any info on the system you have. If I do, I will make an effort to sort out your problems and help you have a working system.

Photos of the machine and nameplate info on steppers, etc. would go a long way in trying to sort out your problems. Also, nameplate data would also be acceptable.

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Edit: Sorry, I was thinking about the C-10 breakout board by CNC4PC. To my knowledge he does not offer a G-10 board unless it is an in-house part #.
Here is a link for you: http://www.cnc4pc.com

Jerry

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Found CNC Masters web site.

I found the CNC Masters web site. I guess a good place to start would be to know which machine you have.

http://www.cncmasters.com

They offer several models of mills with stepper motors, and also several lathes.

Will await your response.

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Wiring the C-10 breakout board to a Gecko system

Here is a drawing of breakout board with the 5 volt connections and wiring for the Gecko stepper drives.
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Originally Posted by CJL5585 View Post
Here is a drawing of breakout board with the 5 volt connections and wiring for the Gecko stepper drives.
Hello;

I like the diagram, the motors should be labeled "Bipolar -Steppers"

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Old 12-24-2008, 10:34 AM
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I uploaded file before I noticed error.

Originally Posted by kreutz View Post
Hello;

I like the diagram, the motors should be labeled "Bipolar -Steppers"

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Yea, I know. It is one of those things that you notice after you have uploaded it, and can't edit it.
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Originally Posted by CJL5585 View Post
The G10 breakout board requires 5 Volts DC for the TTL logic chips. I am not familiar with your machine, so I am not sure what you mean by the term "power inverter".

I will do some research and see if I can find any info on the system you have. If I do, I will make an effort to sort out your problems and help you have a working system.

Photos of the machine and nameplate info on steppers, etc. would go a long way in trying to sort out your problems. Also, nameplate data would also be acceptable.

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Edit: Sorry, I was thinking about the C-10 breakout board by CNC4PC. To my knowledge he does not offer a G-10 board unless it is an in-house part #.
Here is a link for you: http://www.cnc4pc.com

Jerry
I have a cnc masters jr, and giving you the nameplate would be impossible. It's not that I can't read, there are no plates, specs or numbers on any of their equipment, with the exception of the spindle motor and the speed inverter made by leeson. i was told by the compnay (cnc masters) that these stepper motors are 5 amp, I'm also told they are 1200 oz motors. Other than that there's nothing more to tell.
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Originally Posted by m8kingit View Post
I have acnc masters jr, and giving you the nameplate would be impossible. It's not that I can'yt read, there are no plates, specs or numbers on any of their equipment, with the exception of the spindle motor and the speed inverter mad eby leeson. i was told by the compnay (cnc masters) that these motrs are 5 amp, I'm also told they are 1200 oz motors. Other than that there's nothing more to tell.
Oops, my mistake, it is a c-10 board.
Let's see if this works, i'm trying to attach the c-10 info. I'm wanting to know if this board will allow me to hook up the Leeson speedmaster power inverter and if i'll be able to run it thru mach3 using this board

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Originally Posted by m8kingit View Post
Oops, my mistake, it is a c-10 board.
Let's see if this works, i'm trying to attach the c-10 info. I'm wanting to know if this board will allow me to hook up the Leeson speedmaster power inverter and if i'll be able to run it thru mach3 using this board
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No C-10 info was attached.
I am almost positive that Mach3 supports the spindle speed option. I have never used the software, but am familiar with it as it existed about three years ago; In other words, I would have to download and study the documentation to refresh my memory as to how the spindle option works presently.

I would like to know if you have any info on the Leeson speedmaster power inverter, I would appreciate it. A schematic or a wiring diagram would be wonderful. I need to know if the inverter requires an analog or digital type signal to increase spindle speed. The output signal (to the Mach software) is most likely to be one single pulse per revolution from a coil & initiated by a magnet which rotates with the shaft.

The C-10 breakout board is compatible with the software. The other inputs on the breakout board pins 10, 11, 12, will be used most likely for the limit and/or home switches. Pins 13, 14, or 15 will be used for the spindle pulse input, coolant on/off, and possibly spindle on/off via an external relay.

I think that with a little more info that you can have a working system using most of the existing parts.

I would like to know what voltage do you have between pins 1 and 2 on the Gecko drive with the system turned on. This voltage can be as low as 24 volts and as high as 80 Volts DC. The voltage should not vary, but be of a constant value.

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Originally Posted by CJL5585 View Post
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No C-10 info was attached.
I am almost positive that Mach3 supports the spindle speed option. I have never used the software, but am familiar with it as it existed about three years ago; In other words, I would have to download and study the documentation to refresh my memory as to how the spindle option works presently.

I would like to know if you have any info on the Leeson speedmaster power inverter, I would appreciate it. A schematic or a wiring diagram would be wonderful. I need to know if the inverter requires an analog or digital type signal to increase spindle speed. The output signal (to the Mach software) is most likely to be one single pulse per revolution from a coil & initiated by a magnet which rotates with the shaft.

The C-10 breakout board is compatible with the software. The other inputs on the breakout board pins 10, 11, 12, will be used most likely for the limit and/or home switches. Pins 13, 14, or 15 will be used for the spindle pulse input, coolant on/off, and possibly spindle on/off via an external relay.

I think that with a little more info that you can have a working system using most of the existing parts.

I would like to know what voltage do you have between pins 1 and 2 on the Gecko drive with the system turned on. This voltage can be as low as 24 volts and as high as 80 Volts DC. The voltage should not vary, but be of a constant value.

Jerry
Heres the link with the info on the speedmaster I'll leave you the link, the model number is leeson speedmaster 174272 if you'll email me i took some pics i can send, they're too large to popst here. Arturo duncan contatced me and siad his c-11 board was made just for this purpose, however, i'm still unclear as to what this little card is that cnc masters has attached and to waether i should leave it attached or remove it when i install either the c-6 board or the c-11g.
I read the pdf files, but i'm no engineer, please help.
Herte's the pdf link
http://www.electricmotorwholesale.co...es_manual6.pdf

My regualr email address is m8kingit@yahoo.com
Thanks
Mark
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