CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > Electronics > General Electronics Discussion


General Electronics Discussion Discuss basic electronics, power supplies and anything else electronic related here.


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 03-04-2008, 01:14 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: usa
Posts: 266
krymis is on a distinguished road
servo power supply

need some help making a servo power supply. I have three servo motors already. I have the print out of each motor. One is different than the other 2 in terms of size and power. How do I figure out what i need? I know I want to have 65V at 20A unregulated power supply. I need to know what toroid transformer to get and from where. I know John at Antek said his 48V @1000VA would do it, but i thought it would have to be 65V? Also I have my cap picked out. It is a Mallory CGS373U075X5L. Here is the links to each of the parts so far.... transformer
http://www.toroid-transformer.com/AN-10248.pdf , and the cap
http://www.newark.com/jsp/displayPro...=CGS373U075X5L

I need to know what rectifiers to get and where also. And last what filter cap.

motor 1 and 2: Terminal Resistance=3.64 ohms, Inductance=5.58mH

motor 3: Resistance of armature at 25 deg. C=0.67ohms, Inductance of armature at 1000hz=0.74mH, Terminal Voltage=85V, Amps at Peak torque=20
I can try to give you more info if needed on the motors
Reply With Quote

  #2   Ban this user!
Old 03-04-2008, 01:15 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: usa
Posts: 266
krymis is on a distinguished road

I have read through both the gecko and campbell power supply pages. Is there any difference between the servo power supply and the stepper power supply.
Reply With Quote

  #3  
Old 03-04-2008, 03:07 PM
Al_The_Man's Avatar
Community Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 16,540
Al_The_Man is on a distinguished road
Buy me a Beer?

The 48v toroid will give you about 67vdc, 48x1.414.
I usually size current for around 60% of total continuous motor stall torque current.
The bridge rectifier is common for any supplier, 35amp 100vpiv minimum.
Al.
__________________
CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Machine Design.
“Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
Albert E.
Reply With Quote

  #4   Ban this user!
Old 03-04-2008, 03:22 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: usa
Posts: 266
krymis is on a distinguished road

why is that i have a power supply right now that has 2 bridge rectifiers? Is that a common set up?
Reply With Quote

  #5  
Old 03-04-2008, 04:02 PM
Al_The_Man's Avatar
Community Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 16,540
Al_The_Man is on a distinguished road
Buy me a Beer?

Originally Posted by krymis View Post
why is that i have a power supply right now that has 2 bridge rectifiers? Is that a common set up?
There are several reasons, two separate windings or supplies, either different voltages or different polarity WRT common.
Al.
__________________
CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Machine Design.
“Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
Albert E.
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #6   Ban this user!
Old 03-05-2008, 06:58 AM
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: usa
Posts: 266
krymis is on a distinguished road

So basically I would only need one rectifier? I would just need to get the one you stated earlier?
Reply With Quote

  #7  
Old 03-05-2008, 07:14 AM
Al_The_Man's Avatar
Community Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 16,540
Al_The_Man is on a distinguished road
Buy me a Beer?

Yes.One bridge rectifier, for single supply.
Al.
__________________
CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Machine Design.
“Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
Albert E.
Reply With Quote

  #8   Ban this user!
Old 03-05-2008, 11:56 AM
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: usa
Posts: 266
krymis is on a distinguished road

I was looking at www.digi-key.com for the recifier. What one do I need or should I want? I know I want one with the spade terminals for ease of connecting.
Reply With Quote

  #9  
Old 03-05-2008, 12:28 PM
Al_The_Man's Avatar
Community Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 16,540
Al_The_Man is on a distinguished road
Buy me a Beer?

GBPC3501/1 around $6.00 . don't forget to mount it on heat sink preferably aluminum plate.
Al.
__________________
CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Machine Design.
“Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
Albert E.
Reply With Quote

  #10   Ban this user!
Old 03-05-2008, 01:57 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: usa
Posts: 266
krymis is on a distinguished road

Al,

How did you size that? Do you just find one that has more Amp and Volt listed than what you will need once rectified?
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #11  
Old 03-05-2008, 02:47 PM
Al_The_Man's Avatar
Community Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 16,540
Al_The_Man is on a distinguished road
Buy me a Beer?

There is virtually no saving in cost by sizing to exact specifications, Unless size is an issue, I usually allow a generous tolerance for these kind of components.
Al.
__________________
CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Machine Design.
“Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
Albert E.
Reply With Quote

  #12   Ban this user!
Old 03-05-2008, 03:32 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: usa
Posts: 266
krymis is on a distinguished road

Awesom, thank you for helping me through this aspect. The next hurdle is the bleeder resistor. I have read there is no need for one unless you just have the power supply and no geckos wired. Is this true. I know my IH mill has an item on the top of the capacitor. I would assume that is a bleeder. If it is, is there any reason the manufacturer would have that on there. Also this page has pictures of my IH power supply with the 2 rectifiers, and the item on the cap http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23145
It also shows the fuse that the power line goes to. Is there any reason for that also? Shoud I look at putting that fuse in the P.S. even if I am planning on using an AGC 4 fuse block to protect the geckos?

The lines for the rectifiers got from one leg on the power supply split into 2 (the blue line)and then going to ~ on each of the rectifiers. The other line from the p.s. (white) is split into 2 lines and goes to the other ~ line on the rectifiers. THen a red line goes from the + on one of the rectifiers to the plus on the cap and then over to the fuse. On that rectifier the - is empty. The - on the other rectifier goes over to the - on the cap. Is there any way you can tell me what is going on there.
Reply With Quote

Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Power supply for Servo DC Question GEORGETOUBALIS General Electronics Discussion 17 11-19-2007 05:10 AM
Servo power supply help --Please turbotoys General Electronics Discussion 6 09-13-2007 03:17 PM
Servo Power supply elogicca General Electronics Discussion 17 11-21-2006 09:52 PM
power supply sizing vs. servo rating Erick Davidson General Electronics Discussion 1 06-06-2006 03:08 PM
Sizing servo power supply? bsc52001 DIY-CNC Router Table Machines 2 01-30-2004 11:20 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:04 PM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361