CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > Electronics > General Electronics Discussion


General Electronics Discussion Discuss basic electronics, power supplies and anything else electronic related here.


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 12-19-2011, 01:40 PM
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 507
Bob La Londe is on a distinguished road
VFDs & 3 Phase Motors

VFDs & 3 Phase Motors

All-righty then. This may sound stupid, but when you run a 3 phase motor off of a VFD what is your speed range relative to the original speed of the motor?

Approximately of course. Mileage will vary I am sure.
__________________
Bob La Londe ~ Owner of two and a quarter G540s.
www.YumaBassMan.com
Reply With Quote

  #2   Ban this user!
Old 12-19-2011, 02:00 PM
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 1,764
keebler303 is on a distinguished road

Theoretically you can go 0 speed to somewhere around 5 times the rated speed.

Realistically, if you go too slow, your motor will not have adequate cooling and will overheat. If you go too fast, your bearings will fail early and you will have increased vibration.

A general purpose motor is generally good for constant torque down to 1/4 of rated speed. You can go slower but the motor will get hotter and will not be putting out nearly as much power. You can go up to the maximum speed of the motor with constant horsepower (decreasing torque with increasing speed).

If you need a wide range, a blower cooled vector duty motor and closed loop vctor drive will give you full torque from zero to rated speed and full horsepower to around 2x rated speed.

Matt
Reply With Quote

  #3  
Old 12-19-2011, 02:02 PM
Al_The_Man's Avatar
Community Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 16,540
Al_The_Man is on a distinguished road
Buy me a Beer?

RPM is dependent on applied frequency.
Most 3ph induction motors are 2pole or 4 pole.
The base speed of a 2 pole motor operating on 60Hz will result in something under 3600rpm, a 4 pole just under 1800rpm at no load.
On 50Hz this will be <3000 & 1500 respectively.
If running a 4 pole non-vector rated motor on a VFD, you may not want to go much above 120Hz (x2 base rpm).
With a 2 pole non-vector motor, it is most likely already running near the maximum rpm it is designed for, so use caution in going over 60Hz with a VFD.
The minimum rpm is dependent on whether the VFD has Vector angle detection or better still pulse or encoder feedback.
Vector rated motors, check with the manuf.
Some high quality Vector VFD's will go down to full torque at 1 rpm.
Here endith the lesson
Al.


.
__________________
CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Machine Design.
“Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
Albert E.

Last edited by Al_The_Man; 12-19-2011 at 09:29 PM.
Reply With Quote

Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
new to VFDs a few questions integerspin Phase Converters and VFD 3 06-02-2010 05:52 PM
110vac single to 220vac 3 phase VFDs tootalew Phase Converters and VFD 4 09-25-2009 08:33 PM
Slim 5HP 3 phase motors? DennisCNC General Electronics Discussion 0 03-27-2008 10:26 PM
Three Phase Motors Halfnutz Stepper Motors and Drives 3 09-22-2006 09:35 PM
2 phase vs 4 phase stepper motors Don C General Electronics Discussion 1 05-26-2004 01:40 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:49 PM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361