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    74hc14 vs 74hct14

    first off, i'm still in the understanding of ohm's law
    please be kind

    I am experimenting with dc motor using
    pwm on a pic18f452 coding in picc, I am
    using L298n Dual H-bridge laid out in parallel
    to boost current handling, basically I setup
    the L298n to use both h-bridge just for one motor.

    on first run everything seems working fine,
    I could alter the duty cycle and the motor could
    forward and reverse as intended(btw. the setup
    is using so called "locked antiphase" I'm still digesting it
    myself but a search would give you plenty of hits.
    Basically with this setup a duty cycle of 50% does
    not move the motor, up to 100% motor move forward,
    down to 0% reverse.)
    then the next day I tried run it again, but I blew up
    both 74hc14 and the L298n, I'm not quite sure but
    I think it was caused by the capacitor that I have in PSU
    which I didn't realize 'till later that it was in parallel with
    the one I have in the L298n board.(tho I'm not sure what
    effects of parallel caps). I had replaced both chips
    and the L298n is working again this time no caps on the PSU
    just the hbridge board.
    Now to my ? ...due to novice(ness) I bought
    74hct14 instead of 74hc14, they seemed to be identical,
    except for some that I don't understand yet the problem
    is I can't do reverse on my setup it's always forward
    with duty cycle 0% no move to 100% forward move. I scavenged
    a 74hc14 and now all is the way it should be.
    could any1 enlighten me why the antiphase doesn't work
    with the HCT, but works with HC version of 7414.

    TIA
    (sorry for long post)
    I'm using 20Khz PWM if the question arise
    also using a surplus CMC- ME3515 servo for
    the experiment.
    PSU 25v DC w/out caps, 37v with 1000uF caps

    edit: I had to remove the L298n layout,
    I just looked back to the datasheet, and I just
    realized I didn't put pin1 &15 in parallel, so
    I should use only one sense resistor.
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    Last edited by slp_prlzys; 09-12-2005 at 06:45 PM.
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    The basic difference HCT are designed to work at TTL level inputs (5v) and HC are CMOS level rated inputs (15v).
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    Clarifying some, the HC needs a higher input voltage to represent a high, rule of thumb GT 50% VCC, HCT on the other hand will typically see an input high at 1.6V. So running a 5V VCC, a voltage on an input of 2.1V the HCT will act on that as a HI, and the HC will act on it as a low. Plus, HC works at a more open 2V to 6V vcc.
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    thanks for the time guys,
    another one that goes to
    my knowledge bin.

    I have to admit that this experiment
    of mine will be just that an experiment.
    after weeks of googling led me to
    believed that servo control is one complex
    project (atleast for me), but I'll just keep
    working on it accepting the fact that
    I won't be able to finish it,not enough brain power to do it
    just so I'd pick some knowledge in the process.


    thanks again.
    mhel
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