Matsuura Mill setup question- basic (probably same as Fanuc etc)

[Robmatsuura]

Hi ,
Some time ago I bought a Matsuura 710V, Phase converter etc and been experimenting with this machine trying to learn the basics. I have Alibre where I have designed parts and then had a friend create my G-code. I have minimal books on this machine. I need to learn how to get from the point of POWER UP to running my DNC. The machine came with a CAD/CAM DNC box which I upgraded and got a PC connected to and operating.
I cannot understand how I get started . I know I have to home the machine to the limit switches at power up and I have set up my tools in the carousel. I set up tool 25 with my edgefinder. Tools 1 - 5 have my cutters. I programmed tool 25 with zero offset. For a sample work piece I locked down a big block of foam. How to I work my zeroing? My machine does not support G54 (workpiece offsets?) as I understand it. I don't understand how to use G92, G91, G90. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Rob[/QUOTE]

[metx]

What control ? Is it a Yasnac ?

[RayinNH]

I've never run a 710V, but on most controls you need to be in MDI mode to set G92 X Y zero. Get the machine to your part zero in X & Y, then in MDI you type in "G92", then push "write", or "input", then "X0" "input", Y0" "input". If you have a "origin" key, or "ORG" key you can set zero while in jog mode with the position page displayed, just push X then ORG, & Y then ORG, you will see the positions zero out on the screen. When your zero is set, write down the machine position numbers, because when you shut the machine down your G92 position is gone, & you will need to dial back to the numbers & set G92 again. You can also put the X Y numbers into the program. At the start of the program, the lines would look like this.

N1 G00 G17 G40 G49 G80 G91 G99 (safety line)
N2 G28 G91 X0 Y0 (sends X & Y to machine home)
N3 G90 X-10. Y-5. (use your part zero numbers here)
N4 G92 X0 Y0 (sets X Y zero)

If you set it up like this, you don't need to dial to your numbers at each power up.

G90 is absolute mode, all axis moves will be from G92 zero. G91 is incremental, all axis moves wil be from the last position.

You said that you programmed T25 with a zero offset. I've never heard of programming an edgefinder.

Do you know how to set your tool height offsets?

Good Luck,
Ray

[Robmatsuura]

Hi metx,
yes it is a yasnac I think 3000g. I remember the main CPU enclosure saying "System M5G"? I am not near it right now.
Thanks Rob

[Robmatsuura]

Hi RayNH,
I understand the set up I think. To respond to your tool question I found a how to setup routine from a college website for an in house MC-500V. The process they used was put an edgefiner in the highest tool holder and set its offset to zero and machine "Z" to zero off the top of a dial indicator. Then they took each tool down to the dial indicator and recorded the offset in the appropriate tool "H" value. As I understand it now they would then use the edgefinder and locate the top of the workpiece and re-zero the machine. Does this sound right?
As far as the machine doing a tool change how do I now go to the ATC position in my G-code?
Thanks Rob

[metx]

Hi metx,
yes it is a yasnac I think 3000g. I remember the main CPU enclosure saying "System M5G"? I am not near it right now.
Thanks Rob

ok. i have that same machine and control. i will send you a simple drilling program. to get the program to load into the machine memory you need to set the switch on edit, parameter/offset wheel switch to 60, press reset button at top right of control start button just above it. this will start the program load process.

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N0100G00G17G40G80G91G98
N0105M06T01
N0110S56
N0115G91G52X0D30
N0120G92X0G40
N0125G50Y0D31
N0130G92Y0G40
N0135G90M03
N0140G00X-50000Y-10000
N0145G00H01Z1000
N0150G81G99X-50000Y-10000Z-2500R1000F20
N0155X50000
N0160Y-57500
N0165X-50000
N0170G80
N0175G80M09
N0180G91G28G00Z0M05
N0185M01

N0190M06T02
N0195S09
N0200G90M03
N0205G00Y-10000
N0210G00H02Z1000
N0215M08
N0220G83G99X-50000Y-10000Z-15692R400Q1250F20
N0225X50000
N0230Y-57500
N0235X-50000
N0240G80
N0245M09
N0250G91G28Z0M05
N0255G91G28X0Y0
N0260M30
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[Robmatsuura]

Hi metx,
I looked at your code yesterday and I am missing something. Tell me where my thinking is off.

At power up you zero all the axis' using the zero return and jog

Now what I do is install tool 25 by MDI (its an edgfinder w/ h25=0)

Then I use a reference point (dial indicator and zero out the "Z" with tool 25)

After that I key in G28 ZO (cycle start) to get up to ATC position and put in my first tool

I jog down this tool and find the offset with same dial indicator ref.

Once I have keyed in the "H" for the tool I jog it up a bit and g28 z0 again to ATC position

I perform this for each tool I plan on using.

Now I return to tool 25 and locate my X,Y and Z zeros of my workpiece.

If my workpiece is the zero point how to I program a tool change? My machine zero and my workpiece zero are different? Where does g92 fit in to this?
I see code examples but I never understand how the machine get upt to the ATC position for a new tool. If I am down on my workpiece and key in T02 M06 my machine gives me an alarm.

Thanks Rob

[metx]

Rob,
Position machine at your work zero position. set x and y to zero. Now reference machine and write down the numbers you get for x and y.
In your offset position # 30 put in the x number. in offset # 31 put in the y number. The code will call up these numbers from home position and work out.
On your z offsets (tool lenght offset) reference z home and zero out. With ea. tool touch off on top of workpiece and write that number down. These will be your tool length offsets you put in offset #'s called up with the "H" word.



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N0100G00G17G40G80G91G98
N0105M06T01
N0110S56
N0115G91G52X0D30 (X number)
N0120G92X0G40
N0125G50Y0D31 (Y number)
N0130G92Y0G40
N0135G90M03
N0140G00X-50000Y-10000
N0145G00H01Z1000 (H tool length offset #1)
N0150G81G99X-50000Y-10000Z-2500R1000F20
N0155X50000
N0160Y-57500
N0165X-50000
N0170G80
N0175G80M09
N0180G91G28G00Z0M05
N0185M01

N0190M06T02
N0195S09
N0200G90M03
N0205G00Y-10000
N0210G00H02Z1000 (H TLO #2)
N0215M08
N0220G83G99X-50000Y-10000Z-15692R400Q1250F20
N0225X50000
N0230Y-57500
N0235X-50000
N0240G80
N0245M09
N0250G91G28Z0M05
N0255G91G28X0Y0
N0260M30
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[johnny11]

I just got a used matsuura mill with a yasnac mx1 control on it. Can somebody tell me how I can download a program through the rs232 port from my computer?

[Muzzy]

I just did the same thing and could use the same info.


I just got a used matsuura mill with a yasnac mx1 control on it. Can somebody tell me how I can download a program through the rs232 port from my computer?