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Old 03-02-2005, 01:41 AM
 
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not really sure what you can do to make it more of an industrial or non-hobby site. the problem as i see it isn't content, but rather the people you seek to get here. I am a hobbiest and work witha lot of companies that run larger machines and the problem is even though these guys are awsome at what they do the majority of them that i know just dont browse the interent like a lot of us do.
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I hope I havn't stuck my foot in it again !, I did say:

"as it caters for the DIY'er as well as the profesional"

Maybe some might think that its more DIY oriented because with the exeption of a couple of CAD /CAM adverts most ads (iv'e seen) are aimed more at the home workshop or small shop rather than the guy with 5,000sq foot of Haas machines or what ever.

Paul must need alot of dosh to keep all this going so he can't turn down ads because of the product.

There is nothing wrong with the DIY content, as anything that encourages electronics and engineering must be a good thing, especially with the younger generation as it might lead to them wanting to take up a job in engineering.

In Norfolk area (Great Britain) there is a real shortage of skilled CNC programmers / setters.

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O.K. Here is my two cents on the Professional vs DIY issue:

I've been reading here for almost two years, and have been a member for a year and seven months.

It appears to me that there are a lot of professionals here. They are just not all CNC machinists. Mariss is the first one that comes to mind, but there are many many others. I don't think you can get much more professional than Mariss. We have Mechanical Engineers, Electrical Engineers, MillWrights, Electricians, Teachers, and yes, a few CNC Machinists. Then, there are the Entreprenuers and self employed among us; They are professionals too. (For whom I have great respect!)

This diversity is part of what I think makes this sight such a tremendous resource. I think the variety of experts from different disciplines is one of this sights biggest assets.

Now, having said this, I do realize that since I only read posts in about a dozen or so different forums here, that I might be missing a bigger picture. I also realize that there are probably some very good reasons Paul would want to increase the audience in certain disciplines.
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I just want to put my 2 cents in as well. I get alot of people hitting my site (homecnc.info). Many of the people who contact me are professional CNC operators. They are just wanting to have a machine at home to play with. This means that they are a DIY'er. They can't afford to get a $90,000 + machine for home use!

I believe that there are more professional CNC users here than you think. They are just involved in smaller projects for home.

It may help to get more professional CNC users, sellers, etc by getting this link on sites that deal with professional stuff. Example sites (MasterCam, DelCam, Hass, Fanuc, Carr Lane, Gibbs, Hardinge) Some magazines, (Modern Applications News www.modernapplicationsnews.com, Desktop engineering www.deskeng.com, Tooling and production www.toolingandproduction.com)
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I'd love to get a newsletter that could be passed at trade shows, that would be a big help.
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I work in the woodworking industry. Even though I run and program cnc equipment at work, I spend all my time here as a hobbiest. From my experience, CNC in the woodworking industry is nowhere near as large as in metalworking, and a lot of professional woodworkers don't even use computers. People knowledagble in CNC woodworking are few and far between, imo. And although it's starting to change, woodworking machinery and software has always been somewhat proprietary, so knowledge of machinery and software does not usually transfer to other machines and /or software. Which makes it even harder to find knowledgeable people.
I know you used to have PSI and CabinetVision forums here, but noone ever posted. I occasionally read the PSI user's forum, and that only gets about 1 post a month. From all their users!!

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I would be willing to bet that 75 to 80 percent or better of the diy's are in or about this industry. so my question is what do you want that is more professional? The advertisers?

if its the advertisers its been my experience that people like haas want to advertise to shop owners or people that already have machines. Probably because these people have already proven that the have the ability and need to purchase high dollar machines.

sorry rambling again... but any way, I bet most users are professionals related in someway to this industry. but you got to figure anyone using a forum for information (knowledge ) is looking to " do it themselves " otherwise whats the point of talking about it, if your ultimately going to have a tech come out and fix it? (other than comparitive opinions of machinery)
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I work as a cnc machinist / programer about 50 hrs a week .
I also do contract programing for some of the other shops in the area.
So this forum is the cloesest thing to tech support that i have.
The contract work on controls that i don't know and i need help with this is the place to come to.

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you already have the one that i would suggest but it is way under utilized... the classifieds!

guess the everyone is too addicted to ebay!
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Ebay, now that a subject on its own !
You do a search on Google for practically anything and ebay links to totally unrelated crap comes up !

I've posted a wanted add for some live tooling, but I guess not alot of people read the wanted's.

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It's awhile since i joined this site. Lately i have been a bit busy and just could not juggle my time to visit here as often as i would have liked to....

What amazes me the most about this site is the lively creativity, diverse ideas and also the opinions vented here. Most of the members are diy guys, some of them extremely resourceful.

The router forums are the main hub around which the rest of this site revolves.
Those that do advertise here are those that supply servos, controllers, other hardware as well as software for this interesting hobby.

But where are the major guys, the machine tool manufacturers, the small tool manufacturers etc. The BIG companies that are the liveline of the manufacturing industry......

Maybe companies like Haas, Lagun, Colchester, Deckel Maho, Charmilles, Sodick, Ona, Okuma, Mori Seiki, Fadal etc could be asked to help this site to a MONSTER big site.

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