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Old 11-13-2008, 03:20 PM
 
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Why are both tables moving? Problems with Fagor 8070

Hey everyone,

I've been working on Quintax and MotionMaster machines with Fagor controls (8050). We just recently bought a new Quintax machine with Fagor 8070. It's a two table machine which has been my problem since we got it.

I've talked to both Quintax and with Fagor support and neither of them can give me an answer so far...It's this simple...When I program an arc, using G17, 18, or 19, both tables start to move. This only happens when I try to run the program on the U table. I'll give an example:

#RENAME AX [X,U]
G90
G53
;;;CNCO;;;
V.A.ORGT[1].X=[84.45] V.A.ORGT[1].Y=[1.62] V.A.ORGT[1].Z=[-3.2]
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
T7
M06
D0
G07
S18000 M03
G54
G00 X56.2705 Y61.278 Z-28.7862 B0 C0
G00 Z-30.7162
G01 Z-31.1162 F50
G01 X56.3205 Y61.278
;G2 X55.6705 Y61.2879 I55.9997 J61.5602
G17 G09 X55.6705 Y61.2880 I56.0005 J61.1330 Z-31.1112
G01 Y61.758
;G2 X56.3105 Y61.7280 I55.9792 J61.5029
G17 G09 X56.3105 Y61.7280 I55.9605 J61.9030
G01 X56.3205 Y61.2780


This is just the beginning of the program and it's just a slot like hole. At the top I have what I was told would switch every X in the program to a U by switching the Axes. That works just fine, until I get to an arc. At that point both tables start moving even though all of the Xs are now Us.

Fagor people told me to try a few things. I guess the most obvious thing would be to try changing all of the Xs to Us which is pretty impractical but I tried it and it did the same thing.

The next thing I was told to try was putting a G20 U1 Y2 Z3 after the rename axes line. This will make your U and Y your front to back and left to right axes, and your Z axis your verticle axis. This didn't completely work but it did however make the X table (which shouldn't be moving) move just a little bit less

Maybe someone out there has a 8070 control with two tables that can fill me on on how you got both tables to work? I have a few more questions about this machine but for now I really need to figure this out any help would be awesome
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Well I figured it out...hopefully this helps someone in the future who had such a rough time as me figuring out how to do this...

At the top of your program (if you want to run your program on the U table and the program has all Xs) write:

#KIN ID [0]
#SET AX [U,Y,Z,C,B,A]
#RENAME AX [U,X]
#KIN ID [1]

and at the bottom of your program write:

#KIN ID[0]
#RENAME AX [X,U]
#SET AX [X,Y,Z,C,B,U,A]
#KIN ID[1]
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