ISO 9001 or AS 9000??

[PEU]

I left that big defence company a few years back when I wqas required to implement ISO14000, the environmental procedure. We made missiles and I couldn't figure out how to make them environmentaly friendly seemed like an oxymoron to me.

You got me laughing with the iso14000 for missiles


Pablo

[ImanCarrot]

hehe yep, and I swear that is true.

One thing though, if you're auditing a company, put them at ease- sent them a hard copy of what you plan to audit (for example "goods in" or "contract acceptance" etc) sedn them the actual questions you're going to ask, this gives them a chance to prepare and makes the whole process less threatening: no- one like to be put under the microscope, so to speak.

I had one chap whose company I was auditing throw all the procedures on the floor and shout "well you make bloody sense of that lot! cos I flipping well can't!"- talk about getting out of your pram lol, he passed the audit once I'd calmed him down a little bit of psychology was all that was needed.

[LAlcala]

I found a demo for this software, and I have been looking into it, but I am still skeptical about its functionality. I need to decide whether to purchase it or not. Can you please let me know the pros and cons about this software, and has it helped your company? We are a manufacturing company with two years into the ISO certification, I would like to get us away from so much paperwork. Please comment on this. Thank you.

I purchased the ISOXpress Software and have been working on the manual and procedures for the past few months. I have a only few more work instructions to complete and some fine tuning to do.

We will be very close to a paperless system. Paper documents are used only in the job travelers and are destroyed after use. (Records are scanned and stored as pdf files.)

[metalmansteve]

Would you recommend using ISOXpress Software?

[KTD1]

Would you recommend using ISOXpress Software?

Yes, I recommend it. I’m using it everyday now. All me, myself & I that is. I have yet to have my manual reviewed or audited but that wouldn’t be an ISOXpress problem. I’m horrible at organizing and storing paper documents. I would be destined for failure with a paper based system. I still have to force myself to scan a document into ISOXpress as soon as I’m done with it. But just a couple of weeks ago, a customer requested material and heat treating certificates on a job we had done over a month prior. I didn’t have to leave my chair. A few mouse clicks and they were printed to pdf files and off as an email. He was looking at them before we hung up the phone.

The ISOXpress software is my “big binder or file cabinet”. It’s all there. Forms, procedures, records, instructions etc., all in a windows like folder tree where each “file” has a complete control record. I use paper only in the job travelers and eventually, I want to go 100% paperless. The technology is here, I just can’t afford it until this economy gets going again.

[JulieEastern]

Don't forget the new ISO 9001 2008 Standard is about to take over. I'm not sure how long the old standard is grandfathered in for.

Julie

[mrngorickets]

Hi

This topic help me a lot in developing my project. I will contribute more when I finished it.

[mrngorickets]

If you want to get more materials that related to this topic, you can visit: ISO 9001 2008 requirements

Best regards.

[esdios]

You only need AS9100C if you plan on doing aerospace and defense work. I would recommend just starting with ISO9001:2008. It will be a big culture shock to your company just to get used to that. AS9100C is just ISO on steroids. So if you can't handle ISO, you definitely won't be able to handle AS.

If you use an outside service/consultant for training, be careful, not all training companies are created equal. We are currently implementing AS9100C, and we are on our third company. Check out Plexus International. They were informally recommended by our external auditor, and they by far are the best we have had so far. I am in no way affiliated with them, just a happy customer. They are also one of the few approved training providers from the IAQG.

Also, get on the Oasis database and play around. Its the online database for all ISO/AS registered companies.

[cob]

dont know if this is the right question for this tread
but do any of you guys have the scanning system in your shop?
what i mean is if a customer would like to check how far his job is in the shop
he can just log in to your company and he can check the statues of his PO#
if so what kind of software can I buy.
thanks