Scam or not selling machine

[ImanCarrot]

Having re- read my last post I'd like to make it clear I'm in no way advocating baiting these people- some are very serious folk. As a previous poster said just stay clear and report it.

[ckm]

Originally Posted by lovebugjunkie Chris Your post brought back memories of SWIFT. You are right, SWIFT is a very secure, fast and reliable way to transfer funds worldwide and in country. SWIFT can get your transfer from point A to B in seconds; it’s the beginning and end points (banks) you have to worry about. I could relate a few stories about transmitting and receiving banks in the SWIFT system that would make you want to remove your money and never trust a bank again. I worked for SWIFT many years ago, had a few positions in the Culpeper Va facility, in the computer operations and network control sections. Very interesting positions, one thing I found out about banks that surprised me was how often they make mistakes in accounting for money in a timely fashion. I think some people give banks way too much credit for doing things by the book.

Oh, I know. Years ago I actually worked on a 'red team' in a major government agency. I also ran an import/export business, so I've seen my fair share of scams. One of my less scrupulous clients even started his own bank, with SWIFT, of course.

But, if you have to choose a way to send money around, SWIFT is pretty good, esp. since international banking regulations have been significantly tightened since 9/11 (just look at the crap UBS is now going through, unthinkable even 5 years ago). Still, there are a fair number of countries where it is not wise to send money.

The good think about banks, BTW, is that they are very good at covering up their f***ups so that you never know, at least in most modern countries....

Chris.

[Kipper]

Originally Posted by nwrepair1 Come on! Besides, he states that he is an American living in Britain. Why would he use British spelling to converse with an American.

You think that is British spelling? It's actually worse than American spelling.....

Must dash...I have a dozen emails from the UK banks wanting me to confirm my details to reply to....One day they will send one with my actual bank named in the title!


Anyone interested in buying a bridge?

[pike88]

he will send you a check for more than the purchase price. the check will clear (it will be a bad check from a legtimate account and it will take over a month to be noticed and longer for the fed bank to handle. ) by then then you would have sent the item or sent him cash for the difference via western union. Its an old scam.

[TOTALLYRC]

I had a check pulled back that was written on an American bank from an "American Buisness" run by foreigners.
We called the bank and checked twice to make sure it cleared. 2 days after shipping, and they said sorry, the check is no good and we lost are money. The bank person told me that if they dropped the check on the floor and it took 2 years to make it to the bank it was written from and then the check was not any good they would still pull the money from your account, no questions asked. The bank has no responsibility in this, they screw up and you pay.

I found out later that the account it was written on NEVER had that much money in it at one time.

The legal fee's and the logistics meant that we had to write if off as a very expensive lesson.

[MicroMill]

Offer to meet him face to face and bring along someone from your State's Attorney General's office.

[Pressco]

419 eater . com

[CAF Cues]

Originally Posted by little bubba A guy I used to work with got scammed exactly like this. The check cleared, he spent some of it, and 2 days before the merchandise was to be picked up, they pulled the check back out, this was 4 weeks after it had cleared. He ended up with $14k in DVD players in his garage and ended up having to take out a loan to cover the huge gaping hole in his bank account.

How would they be able to "pull the check back out"?

EDIT: After reading more posts I got it figured out.

[universalfab]

Originally Posted by nwrepair1 In the interest of safety, you should can the idea of any contact with this person . How can you know if I would put a back door trojan program into your e-mail and suck out all your info. Or, maybe he has already done that. Sell the machine in the USA. I can see no reason why he would want to buy your machine and ship it to Britain. It probably would be hit with an import tax besides the cost of shipping. Then add cost of dealing with voltage change. Come on! Besides, he states that he is an American living in Britain. Why would he use British spelling to converse with an American. The sentence structure looks just like the letters sent from Nigeria that cheat thousands of people at a time.

Tell him to come to your house and pick it up and then blow his brains out and do us all a favor. I think we should invade Nigeria and rape them like they've raped us.

[lunchtrayrider]

i worked at a bank and unlike most people i worked with payed attention to the details about how things worked. totallyrc is right, checks are never safe, even years later they can be pulled out of the account. I used to recommend to people that if they accept a lot of checks to put them in a separate account and get a new one for depositing every year or so to reduce their long term risk. (it is much harder for a bank to get money out of a closed account, although they can still get it out of you.)

any transaction that does not involve green paper with dead presidents on it can be pulled from your account at any time (even then cash can be called into question). Calling a bank to see if a check has cleared is useless,(they can't actually look into it) they automatically clear checks according to the expedited funds delivery act from way back when (checks are processed in huge lots, it is like calling the post office to see if a letter you sent on some day made it to the destination, they would just laugh because they don't track it). virtually no checks are actually collected on by the bank before they make the funds available to you. 1-3 weeks is typical. even then if a check is actually collected on and then that account is reported as stolen or involved in fraud the money can still be pulled back out of your account.

it is hard to believe the system was ever set up this way. millions of dollars are made by banks jerking this system around all the time.