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Hi All,
I'm setting up a basic manual machine shop with cnc plasma cutting too. Lathe, milling machine, bandsaw, press, mig welder, arc welder, etc. All of this in my backyard workshop.
I would love to work in a small commercial shop away from the restriction and interruptions of home, but you have to have some business before you go sign up for such a lease.
So to get started I've got to try and pick up some work / customers but the advice I've heard is don't have people coming to your domestic property, it gets pretty obvious you're doing business there and there's always someone who will dob you in to council even if you're not causing anyone any problems with noise, mess or whatever.
Anyone ever been in this catch 22 situation and did they have any creative ways of working around it.
Cheers,
Keith.
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Find your self an Angel, which is to say, find a small manufacturer, repair shop, TEST Lab , or someone who you could trade some work to in exchange for room inside their facilities, power, etc. It CAN be win, win for both of you. I work inside an operation like that (second time in life) and both parties are comfortable.
We're not in business to make parts, we're in business to make money, making parts is just how we do that.
Thanks Joe,
that's an interesting one. I've thought of paying someone to rent a portion of their space but I'd need business initially to be able to afford that.
Your option would require my time, effort and machinery use, but at least I'd have an official commercial base where I wouldn't have to "hide", ha ha. Must be difficult picking up business if the customer can't even come to your workshop (home garage).
Guess you've got to pick your Angel carefully and come to a fairly clear arrangement so they don't try and take advantage of you. I'd have to be confident they needed me as much as I needed them is suppose.
Did you do this with paperwork and official agreements or was it just a gentlemans agreement ? And was it on a casual basis so if it didn't work for either party no one was stuck there.
Cheers,
Keith
I have a garage shop that I do business from. All that I did is created my LLC as garage internet sales. Customers aren't supposed to come by. But it makes it legit and all you have to say is they are a friend of yours. Now I have great neighbors and have always been extra courteous in regards to noise, but even with everything going full blast more noise comes from my compressor kicking on than my machinery.
Well, that's funny in a way, I have my Fadal and a Chucker lathe in my boss's shop, and His shop is in a test lab. He charges the lab 1/2 price for work (and still makes money) andOriginally Posted by Beefy
I just work there, but he doesn't charge me rent, they don't charge him, and all I get is straight labor. I use my machines infrequently (right now) for his jobs and he fixed the Fadal last time it broke. there is nothing on paper as far as I know, he used to work with those guys in aerospace (no names mentioned). He is a structural Engineer. The first shop I ever worked in started the same way, old friends trading value. My initial job then was paint, electrical, catch he_ _ for touching the NC, Bridgeport with Slo-Syn controls. 1973, They didn't stay too long before moving south, and I went to work full time there 1 year later, cause my Dad was one of the start up machinists, and he didn't want to move, so he hired me and a bunch of dummies to drill & mill & sweat & cuss . . .
We're not in business to make parts, we're in business to make money, making parts is just how we do that.
That's pretty much the rules in my town, Home business, no visitors, no noise. To quiet that compressor , you might enclose it. Seems the noise compressors make is mostly high frequency and enclosures work fairly well on those.
We're not in business to make parts, we're in business to make money, making parts is just how we do that.
Many of my neighbors have businesses at home, even though the rules forbid it. We, generally don't care. For the most part, we are all respectful of each others peace and quiet.
To make your business legitimate, get your self a mailing address that is different from your home, even if it is a PO box at "Kinkos". The fact that your business has a street address different from your home will make it more difficult for the neighbors to tell the difference between your hobby and your work.
How many visitors do you plan on having? Even approaching 1 a day would be a lot in my mind for a one man shop to have regularly. I think your neighbors should not have a problem with one a day. If you start filling the street with cars, that's another story and perhaps, you should rent space.
Noise is usually what attracts nuisance reports. Do your best to be quiet and respect their sleep hours and you should be OK.
Yes, noise is the best way to get trouble with the neighbors. Go out of your way to make things super quiet, quiet enough that the kids next door can be ourside and not know you are working.
Air condition your shop so that the windows and doors can be completely closed year round.
I only meet people off site. There is no real benefit to having them come over in most cases, just go pick up the work and deliver it yourself.
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