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    Default Rabbit Laser vs Boss Laser LS 2436, looking to buy, need advice

    Hello All,
    New to the forum but have been reading for a few years now. I have a few questions.. I have 15,000 to spend and will be cutting acrylic, wood, leather, felt. I will never need to cut metals. I I have narrowed my search down to A Rabbit Laser with 80 watt tube or a Boss Laser 2436 with 150 watt tube. Here is a snippet from The Rabbit laser I am looking at, this machine is approximately 24x36.
    I am looking for reliability as I do not want to spend time repairing things. I am handy and have built CNC machines and 3D printers so I would be fine with servicing the units myself (if needed)

    Price RL-80-9060(with CW-5000 chiller): $9450 plus shipping and handling services.
    The higher power of 80 watts can be needed for some applications while the space savings or rigidity of the smaller frame is also needed. *This 80 watt laser tube is the ReCI laser tube and has rated life of 8000 hours. The rated power output is 93 Watts max / 80 watts nominal. We have tested the laser output power with Coherent Power meter and consistantly find that it does have the proper output power.

    The Boss laser comes to about 13,497 With 1,800 3 year warranty) this price is with the 100 watt tube..I have read that I probably wouldn't need a 150 watt tube for most things.

    It seems like the Rabbit Laser is the better deal but I am hoping that someone could offer some advice on this.

    I have also been entertaining the possibility of a used Universal or Epilog but they still seem to be out of my price range.



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    Default Re: Rabbit Laser vs Boss Laser LS 2436, looking to buy, need advice

    Hi Jram,

    Get GCC-X252RX-$8K (25"x18", 80W) or GCCX380RX-$10K (40”x29”, 100W). They are incompatibly better than the Chinese machines that Rabbit and Boss sell. GCC have several reps in US and offer excellent support.



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    Default Re: Rabbit Laser vs Boss Laser LS 2436, looking to buy, need advice

    I have only hearsay about Boss laser [altho they seem a professional firm], but I visited Ray at Rabbit in Ohio this winter and was very impressed with his operation and stock... not to mention Ray himself. So I would go Rabbit if I were to do it again, I would get the Ruida controller tho- he now offers that as well as Leetro- and I have them both. Gene

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    Default Re: Rabbit Laser vs Boss Laser LS 2436, looking to buy, need advice

    Hi Jram,
    How thick of acrylic and wood you will cut?
    Usually, 100 watt laser tube can cut about 3/4" acrylic, 1/2" plywood.

    According to my experience, the lifetime of laser tube is about 2500~4000 hours..
    If that tube is about 8000 hours, and working time is about 8 hours/day, the tube can last almost 3 year..
    I think you need to change the tube 1 or 2 year later.

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    Default Re: Rabbit Laser vs Boss Laser LS 2436, looking to buy, need advice

    Hello Nolan,
    I think we would rarely cut 3/4 inch acrylic but I could see us cutting 1/2 inch plywood quite a bit. I think we would use it a bit less than 8 hours per day. It will be in a university setting in which students won't be using it every day. I did not see prices on your site which makes it very difficult to compare prices.



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    Default Re: Rabbit Laser vs Boss Laser LS 2436, looking to buy, need advice

    Thanks for the advice guys, I have really heard a lot of good things about Rabbit Laser so I am really leaning towards buying a few machines from them at this point.



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    Default Re: Rabbit Laser vs Boss Laser LS 2436, looking to buy, need advice

    Jram, i've had a Boss LS-2436 100W for over a year now. It's reliable, cuts are clean. Doesn't engrave as good as our Universal, but cuts better. Supports been good.
    Back when I did a due diligence I didn't think the Rabbit machines (or Full Spectrum) were in the same league.

    The Boss machines were designed in house and had a better engineered build and components. They were on their 4th generation design.
    Most imported X/Y gantry rails are simple square tubing. Boss' are custom extruded w/ bends and its much stiffer. see img.
    You get an inline beam combiner instead of a red dot pointer. 4 pass material pass thrus instead of 2. And I can upgrade to 150w power.
    Last I checked Rabbit only offers 80w.

    But, big thing was Boss' warranty. They cover the laser tube for 1 YEAR not just 3 months.

    I think Rabbit has a good machine but not up to Boss' caliber. Like someone said above if you go with Rabbit dont opt for their Leetro control card.

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    Default Re: Rabbit Laser vs Boss Laser LS 2436, looking to buy, need advice

    Thanks for the advice Ben M2. How do you feel about the Thunderlaser machines? I've seen lots of great reviews on them and I've been in contact with Nolan who has been very responsive so far. I thought I was sold on Rabbit laser but I really like the prices on the Thunderlaser Mars 35.



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    Default Re: Rabbit Laser vs Boss Laser LS 2436, looking to buy, need advice

    Remember that higher power tubes are not very good for engraving. 80 watts seems to be the maximum people recommend if you plan on doing etching and engraving.

    Don't forget that Rabbit requires you pay for a person to travel out and install their machine. Just keep this in mind when pricing things.

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    Default Re: Rabbit Laser vs Boss Laser LS 2436, looking to buy, need advice

    As far as how it their machine performs probably best to get feedback from a Thunderlaser owner. Thunder markets here so you should get some feedback.
    I disagree with their claim that 100w will cut thru 3/4" acrylic... And as far as the tube life Boss 100w is rated at 12,000hrs.

    What I would keep in mind are the risks, costs, and lead time associated with importing direct from China. If Customs or FDA finds something wrong at the border it could get stuck
    or sent back and usually the importer is held accountable.

    Overseas technical support and replacing parts under warranty could also be a challenge. You may want to get details on their warranty is (if any) and who pays for what.
    If this will be used on a daily basis then getting timely support / parts could be problematic. Given that students will be using it I would consider timely support a priority. Keep in mind your
    cost goes beyond your initial purchase.

    Boss has reviews as well. If price is a concern they might be able to work with you especially if its for school. Good luck.
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    Default Re: Rabbit Laser vs Boss Laser LS 2436, looking to buy, need advice

    Hi Ben,
    It's very strange, your tube life is rated at 12,000hrs, but it can't cut thru 3"4 acrylic?
    For example, if working time is 8hrs/day, your tube can be used for about 4 years!
    Are you serious? Some suppliers will say that it is 12,000hrs, but as they are suppliers,
    they do advertisement. It's easy to understand what they say.
    I really don't believe a tube life is rate at 12,000hrs.

    And you don't know much about our company, we send a container to Los Angeles directly,
    our customers don't have any paperwork, don't have any hassle on import and customs..

    Of course, when you purchase a product from other country, it means they don't have local
    tech support, that's true, everyone know that.
    However, the local company will always come and help you to solve the issues? They will
    charge you extra travel fee if you need on-site assist. We also can do it if our customers pay.
    We have a distributor in USA, do you know that?..
    And from our website, you can see many troubleshooting there, many customers will solve
    small issues by themselves.

    And the students will use the laser, usually, we recommend Class 1 laser for university and
    educational institutions. It's safer.
    Boss laser just import the laser from ShanDong City, all we know that the machines from
    ShanDong is very cheap(they sell more,but they also don't care the quality, I think you should
    learn more about Chinese history).
    For example, if Boss laser sell you a laser, it is USD 9000, you import it from China, it is about
    USD 2000~4000.

    Yes, search "bosslaser" or "thunderlaser" on CNCZone, we can see the comments from other users.

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    Default Re: Rabbit Laser vs Boss Laser LS 2436, looking to buy, need advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Nolan Yang View Post
    Hi Ben,
    It's very strange, your tube life is rated at 12,000hrs, but it can't cut thru 3"4 acrylic?
    For example, if working time is 8hrs/day, your tube can be used for about 4 years!
    Are you serious? Some suppliers will say that it is 12,000hrs, but as they are suppliers,
    they do advertisement. It's easy to understand what they say.
    I really don't believe a tube life is rate at 12,000hrs.

    Boss laser just import the laser from ShanDong City, all we know that the machines from
    ShanDong is very cheap(they sell more,but they also don't care the quality, I think you should
    learn more about Chinese history).
    For example, if Boss laser sell you a laser, it is USD 9000, you import it from China, it is about
    USD 2000~4000.
    For me it has always been a mystery why would someone in his right mind pay $9-11K for a Chinese machine that costs $2-3K. It's well known Boss and Rabbit re-sell low-cost Chinese machines. There is no mystery in that. Charging markup fees to cover for import, stock, support, service, etc. is understandable. 30-50% markup should cover for all this and allow for a healthy profit. Paying more than that to a "very friendly and professional" local re-seller is a strange decision.

    //but as they are suppliers, they do advertisement. It's easy to understand what they say.

    I don't know how is in China but where I live people distinguish marketing from lying and stay away from dishonest businesses.



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