Self-respect and Self-esteem must be taken care of to get the work done timely and efficiently (productivity increases). You must tell this to your boss...
Sounds like an old school boss to me.
Good job toughing it out, keep it up. You are in a good position to learn a valuable trade from the ground up, so to speak, and at least you are getting to do the real work instead of just cleaning up the chips.
Your boss knows your capabilities, I am sure, but he probably believes that you will learn quicker if he holds your feet to the fire instead of coddles you. Unpleasant, but if you survive the process you will be a better man for it.
You have already picked up a valuable tool that many apprentices today never learn. You can't expect you brain to remember everything. Your boss seeing you using your "pocket brain" or "wheel book" probably tells him that you are really trying to learn your trade, and will encourage him to be less reticent in imparting his decades of experience to you. Nobody wants to try to teach someone who already thinks he knows it all.... or can remember it all easily,
Tim
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Self-respect and Self-esteem must be taken care of to get the work done timely and efficiently (productivity increases). You must tell this to your boss...
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If you really secure with yourself stay awhile and learn. Pay attention to details about how his attitude makes thing worse and possibly loseing money. When the time is right tell him his anger is losing him employees and money and he go angry go see it. Tell him you can help make things better but he has to work on his attitude and anger. Show him how he is losing money. Then let him have it.
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Ditto, I worked at a control panel plant right before college, I was only there for 4 months between high school and college, so they didn't want to train me on a lot. I did some plate layout, operated a broom, and engraved/applied 1000's of those little colored engraved plastic tags. The foreman was, not exactly a hothead, but he was very competent, expected a lot, and didn't tolerate avoidable screw-ups.
In the first week I learned to anticipate as many questions as I could, and the first moment something didn't go the way he explained it to be done, or seemed like it might not be right I asked him. I could tell he was a little annoyed at times to have to stop and clarify, but he liked that instead of 400 slightly off center tags.
I agree stick it out, even if it's a nightmare hang on for a few months. If I gave an interview to a greenhorn who sat at a job for two weeks and left because the boss is hard, an got the story I'd come to this conclusion... Boss is tough yes, you're thin skinned or avoid conflict, wanted the opinion of someone who didn't matter instead of asking the boss (paradoxically afraid to screw up) if the part was acceptable. 10 minutes lost time on the run is worth the potential avoidance of 3 hours rework, matl. and spindle time. He may have a hard time understanding that, he might even be frustrated that you are "wasting his time" instead of just finishing the work. In my experience though, if you can demonstrate that those questions increase your knowledge, and you can start anticipating things he's looking for and doing a better job than he expects he'll see that you ask a question for a purpose, not just to kill some of the workday.
Good luck!
I'm still there. I've learned a lot more, of course. As for the boss the other employees that remain (a handful) tell me he's "getting better". He comes in drunk regularly but not as much. He yells and curses at you, and berates you almost everyday, but it's not as intense (no throwing parts around anymore or closing the shop early out of anger). It seems common around the machine shop to talk negatively about all the employees and about other machine shops. I just don't get it. Young people work who are so excited about learning to machine and and then are called a "f*cking idiot" directly and in many ways over and over. One of these days I want to wear a body cam.
The boss walks around looking at you with contempt. I've stopped asking questions. I just listen when he speaks. There are almost no good questions to him.
It turns out the shop is almost always late on getting parts to customers. I've also witnessed some really harsh interactions with them, like really treating customers poorly in person. Bad jokes, lying to get more business, aggressively handling them. These engineers I can see are sensitive to it.
So many aspects of the job I love. But it's time to start looking around.
it's Time to leave
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A real nice place to look back on .......just use it as a stepping stone if you want to keep in that line of work.
Ian,
I agree - that will never change. This is very bad luck for your career. You either stick it out and hope to learn something or leave with your sanity and pride intact. It is a tough decision.
I've had a couple of bosses that had anger issues. I always felt like I couldn't be honest with them without putting my career on the line. Anger management problems are a disability. A person doesn't have to be angry to show another how to improve.
You'll spend sleepless nights worried and will never be comfortable with a boss like that. I recommend spending nights and weekends finding somewhere else to work. Exit quickly.
Hi, it's all a matter of respect.....if someone shows disrespect for you.....either an employer or a girlfriend even.......walk away, they don't own you and the World is a big place.
BTW.....NEVER consider a job as a career.....it's just a bread earner.......people don't like you because you're good at what you can do, mostly they'll resent your presence because you're probably better than them.
When you can apply for a job and get it you aren't going to be judged on your past history........what you can do is what you will be paid to do and what they expect from you......if you fall down on that issue you'll walk anyway.
Ian.