CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > Electronics > Gecko Drives


Gecko Drives Discuss all Gecko drives here and get direct support!


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 07-21-2009, 07:37 PM
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: usa
Posts: 32
grossmanator is on a distinguished road
Gecko 540 Stepper Motor Roughness

I'm just getting into CNC and I recently bought a K2 CNC 2514 router. Here are the specs of what I am using:

K2 CNC 2514 Router w/ Colt Bosch Router
KL23H276-28-4B Keling Stepper motors
G540 driver
48V DC 7.3A 350W Regulated Switching Power Supply (Off Ebay)
Dell Laptop with Mach 3

I have hooked everything up and the steppers run well, however every once in a while the steppers run rough (maybe missing some steps) for a split second. I would say that the problem occurs every 5-10 seconds and lasts for about 1/5 of a second. This problem shows up on every axis and on every motor and happens whether the stepper is mounted on the router (loaded) or not mounted (unloaded). The problem doesn't happen simultaneously on each axis though. I am thinking that it might have to do with the mach 3 control and the fact that I'm using a laptop.

mach 3 running speed = 25 Khz
steps per inch = 20000 (0.1 TPI lead screw with 200 step steppers 10 microsteps)
IPM = 35
Acceleration = 10
dir pulse = 2ms

any ideas or people who have seen similar problems?

thanks,

- Will
Reply With Quote

  #2   Ban this user!
Old 07-21-2009, 09:52 PM
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: No. Central CA, USA
Posts: 138
Dorsal is on a distinguished road

Within the Mach3 directory there's a file called "drivertest.exe". Find it and run it and test the quality of your parallel port signal. I had a nearly identical problem trying to run Mach3 from my Dell D800 laptop, and learned the parallel port quality was horrible!
I bought a SmoothStepper and cured all the problems.
In other words, in my opinion your problem is signal quality, from your computer. Run that file and take a screenshot (Alt+Print Screen) of the window while the test is underway.

By the way, the cheap parallel port emulator cards will NOT work, save your pennies and get what you really need They provide enough signal to run a printer, but not a CNC card. Go to http://www.warp9td.com/index.php to read up on the cure.
Reply With Quote

  #3   Ban this user!
Old 07-21-2009, 10:10 PM
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: usa
Posts: 32
grossmanator is on a distinguished road

I've tried running the driver test file and it says my system is excellent. I see a smooth black line at 25 Khz. When I drag the window around with the cursor during the test (to simulate CPU load), I do see some small bumps in the line, but the systems still says excellent.
Reply With Quote

  #4   Ban this user!
Old 07-21-2009, 10:33 PM
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: No. Central CA, USA
Posts: 138
Dorsal is on a distinguished road

Is that a smooth thin black line, or so many small interruptions that the signal is never actually clean?
Try telling your virus scanner to scan the hard drive, then run the test. Your symptoms are too periodic to be just a coincidence.
Do you have some "autosave" or "Autoscan" feature running in the background?
Reply With Quote

  #5  
Old 07-30-2009, 04:43 PM
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: United States
Posts: 2,717
Mariss Freimanis is on a distinguished road

Please try "Sherline Mode" in Mach3. It may straighten out the funny behaving drive.

Mariss
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #6   Ban this user!
Old 08-24-2009, 01:16 AM
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: usa
Posts: 32
grossmanator is on a distinguished road
Oops

First I want to thank everyone for their responses. Second, I figured out my problem. I actually wasn't losing steps. My motors were performing admirably. My problem was the moving gantry on my CNC machine. I think the springs on the leadscrews are compressing as the steppers turn, and then somehow they uncompress very quickly at certain times and make a loud noise. I took this noise as step losses because i am a noobie and didn't know better.

On another note, has anyone experienced this problem before?

thanks again all
Reply With Quote

Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The Great List of Gecko/PS/Stepper Motor combo's... nate Gecko Drives 0 07-12-2009 11:39 AM
Ball Screw Roughness mre1000 Linear and Rotary Motion 2 06-06-2009 10:18 AM
What stepper drivers should I use? Gecko DingbatCA CNCzone Club House 4 02-27-2009 11:16 PM
roughness in spindle fourperf Haas Mills 9 03-06-2008 09:36 AM
Beltdrive-stepper motor-stepper motor driver Georg Stepper Motors and Drives 0 10-16-2007 04:56 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:10 AM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361