CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > Electronics > Gecko Drives


Gecko Drives Discuss all Gecko drives here and get direct support!


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 09-02-2007, 09:23 PM
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: U.S.
Posts: 103
mxpro32 is on a distinguished road
g201's motors buzz, but do not move

Hi, I hooked up one of my g201's and I am having a problem. When the
jog buttons are pushed, the motors make a buzzing sound but do not
move. I am switching from thstep25 drivers and I am using the same
breakout board and mach-3 settings as before, but the steps/inch have
been changed to match the 1/10 microstepping. I have tried reversing
the motor winding wires as mentioned in the manual and the motors
still sound the same. I have tried my 80v power supply and my 35v
power supply with the same result. I have tried different motors. I
have tested the common 5v, which I tapped from my breakout board, and
it measures 4.73v. I am using 2.8A nema-23 motors and I have a 33K
ohm resistor across the current set terminals. the red power light
always comes on. I am out of ideas, and this is the only machine I
have and I use it for production, so ideas you have will be greatly
appreciated. thanks
Reply With Quote

  #2   Ban this user!
Old 09-03-2007, 10:48 AM
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: U.S.
Posts: 103
mxpro32 is on a distinguished road

Any ideas? This post is not showing up under the new posts section.
Reply With Quote

  #3   Ban this user!
Old 09-03-2007, 02:14 PM
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 48
PoolQ is on a distinguished road

Somewhat of a noob as CNC goes, but fair at electronics -so here are my 2 cents at some things to look into.

Did your old driver have opto inputs. the 201 uses a common of +5VDC and the dir and step must pull the inputs to GND to activate them.

Are you using the enable/disable pin? Left open enables.

How many wires on your steppers?

with the motor disconnected and power off, when you short the wires you expect to be pairs together the motor should be MUCH harder to turn by hand than when they are not shorted.

With an 8 wire stepper there are 2 coils for each phase. They can be connected in series or parellel. They must be connected so that the actual windings are in the same direction, + to + and -to- for parellel and + - to +- for series if not I would think you might end up with what you are seeing. also if you formed one pair with one winding from phase A and one from Phase B you could also end up with the same results you are seeing.

My guess is that it is the stepper wireing that iscausing the problem. It sounds like the Gecko is trying to drive the motors, is reacting to the step pulse and is enabled. I don't think it is either power supply.

Your resistor may have to be adjusted (for maximum power) depending on if you are using series or parallel windings for the motor hookup. But this should not cause your current problem.

I hope this is of "some" help
Reply With Quote

  #4   Ban this user!
Old 09-03-2007, 03:55 PM
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: ENGLAND
Age: 47
Posts: 1,655
Oldmanandhistoy is on a distinguished road

This reminds me of a very similar situation I had when I first set up a stepper system. Wired everything up, set my software, and tried to jog and all I got was a buzzing sound from the motors. It turned out that I had the jog set up for such a slow jog I could not see the stepper moving. Might be worth taking another look at your new setting for 1/10th micro steps.

Good luck,
John
Reply With Quote

  #5   Ban this user!
Old 09-03-2007, 11:41 PM
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: U.S.
Posts: 103
mxpro32 is on a distinguished road

Thanks for the replies guys. I am using 4-wire bipolar 2.8 amp motors. The current set resistor being used is a 33k ohm verified with a multimeter. The phase pairs were also verified with a multimeter. The steps per inch are correct for the 1/10 microstepping and I have tried different jog speeds, which changes the frequency of the motor buzzing, but still no movement. I wired the 5v opto-supply wire to the 5v auxiliary-out on my pmdx breakout board. The 5v coming from the pmdx measures 4.7v on the multimeter. Anything else it could be? the chances of getting two bad drivers is slim, and I tried different power supplies, so that can't be it. It's got to be something I am missing, but I have hooked up numerous stepper drivers without issue, so I feel confident I hooked them up correctly. Any ideas are appreciated.
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #6   Ban this user!
Old 09-04-2007, 01:52 AM
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 48
PoolQ is on a distinguished road

disconnect the step wire and use a short wire to tap it (the driver terminal) to ground several times and see if it steps. no steps driver to motor. yes steps driver to breakout board
Reply With Quote

  #7   Ban this user!
Old 09-04-2007, 05:44 AM
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: ENGLAND
Age: 47
Posts: 1,655
Oldmanandhistoy is on a distinguished road

The only other thing I can think of is your pulse width setting; you could try increasing that.

John
Reply With Quote

  #8  
Old 09-04-2007, 09:37 AM
ger21's Avatar
Community Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Shelby Twp, MI....USA
Posts: 20,453
ger21 is on a distinguished road
Buy me a Beer?

Have you tried using 5V from the PC?
__________________
Gerry

Mach3 2010 Screenset
http://home.comcast.net/~cncwoodworker/2010.html

(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
Reply With Quote

  #9   Ban this user!
Old 09-04-2007, 10:33 AM
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: U.S.
Posts: 103
mxpro32 is on a distinguished road

I am going to try that today. It's the only thing I can think of. maybe the 4.7v just isn't enough voltage.
Reply With Quote

  #10   Ban this user!
Old 09-06-2007, 05:25 PM
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: U.S.
Posts: 103
mxpro32 is on a distinguished road

thank you mariss! I just got off the phone with mariss and we got my setup going. Turns out it was just a stupid mistake on my part (figured as much). I installed 33 ohm resistors thinking they were 33k ohm resistors. I even checked them with an ohmeter and in my haste, thought they were 33k. With the proper resistor in place these things really fly. I am getting 200 ipm rapids where I was getting 70 with my previous setup, and thats at 35 volts. I can go up to 60 volts with my motors. Very cool. Thanks everyone for your help.
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My stepper motors don't move! Help? unapez Stepper Motors and Drives 1 11-02-2005 08:00 PM
No Z up on move CNCadmin Mach Software (ArtSoft software) 4 03-20-2005 12:08 PM
The X-Axles... to move or not to move! Wild4aces Mechanical Calculations/Engineering Design 1 03-18-2005 01:26 PM
Where to purchase g201's? mdoan Gecko Drives 2 10-27-2004 01:59 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:43 PM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361