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Old 11-08-2008, 05:24 PM
 
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Studying Gcode, need some info

I am looking at building a 2 axis system for a specific application, where I will drive the motor drivers with a processor that receives coordinates that come from a custom PC app that supplies X and Y.

The main app will send positions to the processor, which will output step and dir to the driver IC. The processor needs to determine the rates at which each axis moves depending on distance, where overall speed is set in the main application as FeedRate.

Here is my thinking out loud on the problem:

Arrive at X,Y at the same time, max speed set by GUI

Move Y at speed Ydist ( Ydist = pulses per inch to arrive at Y new position)
Move X at speed Xdist ( Xdist = pulses per inch to arrive at X new position)

200 pulses per revolution full step as reference
28 tpi threaded rod = 5600 pulses per inch

Example move:
Distance Y=1" X=2"
So that X distance = 2" (11200 pulses), Y distance 1" (5600 pulses)
FeedRate is Set at GUI, ex = 1 IPS - 5600 pulses a sec which equates to a relative pause between pulses setting the pulses per sec.

To arrive at the same point at the same time, example code in the processor below:

GetPosition
'receive X, and Y new position
Xdist = 11200 'pulses
Ydist = 5600 'pulses

If Xdist > Ydist then
X speed = Xdist/Ydist

'Xdist = 11200
X speed = 11200 / 5600 '= 2
X speed = (5600 / 2) pulses per sec

'Ydist = Feedrate
Y speed = FeedRate 'output Y pulses at 5600 pulses per sec
RunXMotor(Xdist, Xspeed)
RunYMotor(Ydist, Yspeed)

I know this is not right yet, but I am hoping someone can give some pointers on if this is in a workable direction. What I am thinking is to let the longer distance be the Max Speed at FeedRate, let the shorter distance be a ration of speed based on the distances.

Thanks for any tips.
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Unless you're moving very slowly, you'll need to accelerate and decelerate.
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I think you'll need to consider that the commanded feedrate is the vector feedrate along the line joining the two points. On a two axis move, this vector represents the hypotenuse of a triangle composed of the X component and the Y components which parallel each machine axis.

So then resolve the component vectors by whatever mathematical function computes them in the fastest way. You could use the Pythagorean forumula or sine or cosine functions to determine the component feedrates.
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Originally Posted by ger21 View Post
Unless you're moving very slowly, you'll need to accelerate and decelerate.
Yes, the accel, decel would be art of each motormove function.

The question that comes to mind is how to keep things in sync, maybe move X steps during the accel/decel phase. Or, maybe move X percent of total travel per each axis during accel/decel. I think this is trial and error, since it is not clear as to how to accel both axis' and keep the moves proportional.

Thanks for the input guys, it seems like a real task to do this from scratch.
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Wait til you start the routine to maintain constant velocity while moving in a circle

It sounds like your vector function will need a rounding method as well as an "aliasing" routine. It's relatively easy to determine how many pulses to send to each axis when the vector is a simple integer ratio i.e. 1 to 2. But how do you handle a ratio of 1 pulse to 2.5 pulses? In this case it wouldn't be that hard. Over two "steps" you would have a ratio of 2 pulses to 5. So your first step you would send 1 pulse to 3, then 1 pulse to 2, then keep alternating that pattern until you reach the end of the move. Then when you hit the end you must determine your error, if any.

Maybe you already know all this, maybe that sort of accuracy isn't important, but it sounds like a fun project!
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If you don't wat to spend your life at designing and proving out a workable system, look at getting a Galil motion control card, galilmc.com. The cards come up on eBay for reasonable prices. There's very nice VB and other software interfaces to use this card with your app.

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