anyone familiar with bostomatic spec. canned shapes?

[gogego]

I could use some help to better understand how to use special canned shapes
My focus atm is bolt patterns m2005 in particular, this is what I have so far...
G92D100
N1
G90
G141
T1M0
G48SV12
V60DV3
V67D[[V11*V12]*100000]
V77DV1
V78DV2()
V79D32606
V80DV6()
M3M8
M2005
M5M9
Z4.R
X0.Y0.R
G49
M00
G94D100
M2
.....
Any advice is appreciated or direction to programming examples or books for the (I do have the manuals but I haven't come across a good prog. example)
BDC 3200/4000 type mill.

CHEERS

[fordav11]

wow! it's always interesting to see a company try to re-invent the wheel and fail miserably.
that control is so far away from standard G-Code it's hilarious. its kind of stuck in a permanent macro mode but only with access to the calling G/M code not the actual macro code.
even funnier, Bostomatic sounds like it came from a Simpsons episode

anyway, I found the manual online at bostomaticusers.us and it's basically useless. there's little to no explanation or programming examples for most of the non-standard M codes. that's a G-R-E-A-T manual. oh yeah

according to the manual the control can accept and run standard g-code (G0/G1/G2/G3) so you could write it long hand. most cycles are only a shortcut way of doing something more complex with less code but there's nothing to stop you writing it out line by line.

drilling on a bolt-hole pattern (your M2005) is pretty simple and common. if you give an example or sketch of what you want to machine someone could probably write out common g-code for it.

alternatively you will need to explain what your variables are set to and we can write out something more standard by translating your B.S. code to g-code.

from a cursory glance at the manual.....

V77 sets the # of pattern elements V1=?
this is likely equivalent to # of holes

V78 sets the pattern diameter. V2=?
this would be the PCD.

V80 sets first element rotation angle. V6=?
this would be the first hole angle relative to 0 degrees.

plus your initial Z level and drill depth

writing that out in g-code is very very easy once we know the numbers.

[gogego]

yes it will take some extra effort to learn how to use this machines functionality, but I will try then I can decide how useful it is or isn't but it is what I have to work with. I can make a regular point to point program but now I would like to set up a few macro programs using these special cycles.
I want to start wih the bolt circle cycle. m2005 cs#32606
v1 2.063" BC
v2 3 holes equally spaced
v3 30deg start angle( location of first hole)
v4 hole depth
these are the primary variables I want to focus on.
yes we have the manuals but I have yet to find a working program example that.
Ideally I need some program examples lets say for a part like this

3"x3" f1at st0ck with a
1.5"x1" pocket .125" deep with a
.875"circle pocket .312" deep with a
2.125" bc 4 equally spaced holes .88" deep 1st hole at 45deg
these holes are 5/16-18 so spot, drill, tap
part zero is at the center of the part(the bolt pattern is my initial focus)

[fordav11]

hmmm. it probably wont help your M2005 bolt hole cycle learning but there is a 3 hole bolt pattern program on page 2-21 of the programming manual. its using axis rotation which IMO is a long-winded way of going about the task.

you don't have to use these cycles. you can do it any way you want. on Fanuc there are also some cycles to do similar things but with more comprehensive documentation. even so many people just program point to point or use CAM software. if you want to get the job done program it long hand and move on. if this is just a learning exercise you will need to read read read the manual

just out of curiosity what happens on the machine if you run your above program? sometimes the easiest way to learn is feed it something then bug fix it after when alarms/errors are flagged by the control and/or watch the tool movement and see what it does and correct the program as you go.

G-code really means Fanuc or at least Fanuc-compliant. Your machine is neither and since this is a G-Code programming forum there's very little possibility of getting any help here.

The manufacturer has a web site so perhaps you can contact them for more info. maybe there is another manual that explains more. there's also a forum.... that will be your best bet for help....
http://bostomaticusers.us/Forums/index.php

[gogego]

I am debugging at the control, but hopefully in the meanwhile I can gather more info that may help...so far I can get it to go to the first point to begin the bolt circle then it gets stuck In a loop moving incrementally to the start point of the bolt circle. I keep plugging away and I will get it one way or another.

[fordav11]

do you have access to the code behind the M2005? there could be some kind of hidden macros in the memory. if you can get access to it and upload it here we can easily figure out how it works and feed it the correct info. Also, there seems to be shape files or something (i.e. D32606). Are those in memory too? The default for bolt hole cycle is D32606 and there's a note that says 'the canned shape called by V79 must be incremental'
so it'll help if we know what D32606 is doing.....
it also says you should position your tool at X0 Y0 Z(clearance) before calling M2005.
i.e.
G0 X0 Y0
Z4.
M2005

It looks like you have not done that?