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    Cutter Comp Definition

    I've been reading a comp problem thread, and while I have nothing to add to the thread (I could, but it's well covered), one thing continues to irk me just a little.

    It's the definition of G41 and G42.

    G41 has always meant "cutter to the left of the programmed geometry" and G42 to the right. The Climb / conventional definition may work 95% of the time, but all I have to do to switch from climb to conventional is change from a right hand cutter to a left hand cutter, no re-programming necessary.

    Just my $0.02

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    No offense intended, but

    you must have an unusually large stock of left hand cutters.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mfgbydesign View Post
    you must have an unusually large stock of left hand cutters.
    No offense taken.

    It's just about the definition, not about what I would or would not do.


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    I agree, Climb/Conventional has nothing to do with G41/G42, except to add confusion.
    Gerry

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    Add me to the list of left/right folks. Adding the climb/conventional always made things muddier for me.


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    Now I see your context

    I absolutely agree with the left / right definition. It has nothing to do with climb / conventional. Wonder what the other folks do when programming Tool Nose Radius Compensation on a lathe?


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    Quote Originally Posted by beege View Post
    ... change from a right hand cutter to a left hand cutter, no re-programming necessary.....
    On a mill, I would have thought the spindle rotation would also need changing?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi View Post
    On a mill, I would have thought the spindle rotation would also need changing?
    Of course, you're right. I left out that detail... sorry


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    And, as pointed out by somebody some time back, left/right directions are defined when the plane of compensation is viewed from the positive direction of the third axis.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sinha_nsit View Post
    And, as pointed out by somebody some time back, left/right directions are defined when the plane of compensation is viewed from the positive direction of the third axis.
    Right! I've worked with lathes where the X plus was toward the operator, and some where the X plus is away from the operator (slant bed especially). Since there is no formal Y axis, one has to figure out where Y positive is supposed to be, then program both TNRC and radius directions accordingly.


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    And the water gets muddier and muddier with every post.

    It does however help me rationalize one of my methods. Method #1.....I don't use cutter comp. I am confused enough on most days so I spare myself the agony of adding insult to injury.

    Beege.....good thread. It is a great example of taking definitions with a grain of salt.

    Stevo


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    And offset table can also have negative values for radius, interchanging the meaning of G41/G42.


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