DynaCNC Post Removal

[tohlsson]

Hopefully this post is polite enough, and doesn't offend any sponsers or moderators... Maybe we should talk abouut global warming, hence the the name CNCZONE. I'll now put it to rest.

[svenakela]

Please tell me, what is your goal with this?
Seriously I really want to know where you want this to lead. You gave your expressions in another thread where others - including me and the site owner - responded with different kind of arguments, wasn't that enough?

Regards,
Sven

[gmfoster]

Please tell me, what is your goal with this?
Seriously I really want to know where you want this to lead. You gave your expressions in another thread where others - including me and the site owner - responded with different kind of arguments, wasn't that enough?

Regards,
Sven

His goal is pretty obvious. He would like a forum that is open to negative remarks about all products. Not just remarks that support vendors...

But being as that can't happen maybe he can post about something trivial like all the political and greenie posts that seem to fully allowed but have nothing to do with CNC.

And I have no idea what he said that caused his posts to be deleted and another thread to be locked....

But sure am curious now...

Garry

[tohlsson]

I'm not sure what arguement Sven is referring to, but I was never engaged in any arguments. I simply stated my experience, and responded to one unfair comparsion. I think that Garry (gmfoster) sums up my intentions quite well!
Thanks,
Terry

[svenakela]

Hopefully this post is polite enough, and doesn't offend any sponsers or moderators... Maybe we should talk abouut global warming, hence the the name CNCZONE. I'll now put it to rest.

I'm not sure what arguement Sven is referring to, but I was never engaged in any arguments. I simply stated my experience, and responded to one unfair comparsion. I think that Garry (gmfoster) sums up my intentions quite well!
Thanks,
Terry

Another moderator removed a thread (and still, I don't have the background to it) and the other one got locked because I believe there were enough with answers to the original post. Hence, I thought you had made your expression visible which has nothing to do with that particular forum - it was a direct post about this forum overall. I can move that thread to one of the Site Support forums and reopen it again if you still have something to tell in the issue. Just tell me and I'll be happy to do it for you.

Also, if you want to discuss a particular sub-forum, for example why there is a global warming forum, that should also be addressed to the Site Support area.
By starting threads like this one that has nothing to do with DynaCNC and contains weird comments about other forums doesn't help you or anyone else. In your second post you also state that there are no arguments, so why did you start this thread then?
Stop it, or I'll stop you.

And by the way, I moved this one because it still has nothing to do with wood routers.

Best regards,
Sven

[gmfoster]

[QUOTE=svenakela;308430]Another moderator removed a thread (and still, I don't have the background to it) and the other one got locked because I believe there were enough with answers to the original post. Hence, I thought you had made your expression visible which has nothing to do with that particular forum - it was a direct post about this forum overall. I can move that thread to one of the Site Support forums and reopen it again if you still have something to tell in the issue. Just tell me and I'll be happy to do it for you.

Also, if you want to discuss a particular sub-forum, for example why there is a global warming forum, that should also be addressed to the Site Support area.
By starting threads like this one that has nothing to do with DynaCNC and contains weird comments about other forums doesn't help you or anyone else. In your second post you also state that there are no arguments, so why did you start this thread then?
Stop it, or I'll stop you.

And by the way, I moved this one because it still has nothing to do with wood routers.

Best regards,
Sven[/QUOT

Question How do you spell "over moderation"?

Answer "Sven"

Best to you also..
Garry

[CNCadmin]

CNCzone's Policy Toward Free Speech & Commercial Advertisers (5-31-07)

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We are often asked by advertisers to remove posts made by members in our discussion forum because the posts are objectionable to the advertiser. One might imagine that the decision to remove a post would be an easy one for a publisher that depends upon its advertisers for revenue. In point of fact that is not the case. Because the issue of censorship is such a complex one, we have created a policy which we believe is fair to both advertisers and members, who desire their words to be heard without interference by commercial interests.

In an area colored mostly in shades of gray, there are certain black and white rules we can apply:

All patently false or defamatory statements will be removed as soon as possible after we become aware of them.
All other posts which are challenged by any party (commercial or not) will be examined to determine whether they make false or defamatory statements. If the posts do not contain such statements, those posts will be permitted, regardless of whether the objecting party believes they are damaging.
In his works defending free speech, Ben Franklin wrote;
"The opinions people have are almost as various as their faces. The job of printers is to allow people to express these differing opinions. There would be very little printed if publishers produced only things that offended nobody. Printers are educated in the belief that when men differ in opinion, both sides ought equally to have the advantage of being heard by the public; and that when Truth and Error have fair play, the former is always an overmatch for the latter. It is unreasonable to imagine that printers approve of everything they print. It is likewise unreasonable what some assert, that printers ought not to print anything but what they approve; since ... an end would thereby be put to free writing, and the world would afterwards have nothing to read but what happened to be the opinions of printers."

As a publisher of other peoples' opinions, we are quite similar to printers in Ben Franklin's day. We also believe that the underlying wisdom in his words provides a sound foundation for our policies. The very fact that we DO NOT interfere with the free expression of our members is what makes CNCzone a desireable place to post such expressions. Without that activity, there would be nobody to which our vendors' advertisements could be directed. The opportunity to present one's products to a large and interested audience comes with the risk that a member of that audience will be dissatisified with the product. Whether right or wrong, that person has a right (on CNCzone) to express their opinion and experiences, provided their account is truthful. Likewise, any party disagreeing with that person has the right to voice their opinions. In the end, we have found that the truth about good products is always "an overmatch" for the negative posts.

The policy we keep is by no means one-sided. To the contrary, it fosters many benefits for commercial advertisers. In our experience, a manufacturer who professionally and politely engages a dissatisfied customer can often turn that customer into a lifelong spokesperson for the company. Moreover, astute manufacturers and retailers often use feedback they find on CNCzone as a barometer of their performance in the market. Before the Internet, vendors had to rely on letters and word of mouth to determine whether their products and services were meeting the mark. Today, the Internet provides a powerful and immediate source of valuable feedback for those willing to listen. It is with these views in mind that CNCzone maintains its policies toward potentially upsetting posts in the forum and looks forward to maintaining its status as the largest online CNC community in the world.

[CNCadmin]

I'll now put it to rest.

Thank GOD

[svenakela]

Question How do you spell "over moderation"?

Answer "Sven"

Best to you also..
Garry

You think so? Now I'm happy to get an argument on that as well.