stupid ?? spurred by impatience

[hopcycle]

Hi guys. I searched the forum prior to asking this, but I've had no luck. I'm familiar with some g-coding but just recently purchased an older Kitamura Mycenter 3 with Fanuc 6M controller. (and of course no manuals). I've ordered the operators manual from Fanuc but it'll be a few days. I have the machine jogging and zero returning fine but cannot pull up any menus, macros or programs that might be in memory. There is some letterring on CRT beside the "abs" for absolute that says "lsk". I cant dtermine what that stands for and if it has anything to do with my inability to access menus. I also cannot get it to respond to simple move in MDI mode. Anybody willing to help someone not patient enough to wait for the manual?
Thanks David

[fanuservicetech]

How did you get pass the overtravel problem? Sorry I know this is not related to this particular question but for my future reference. Thanks.

[hopcycle]

I followed the forum here and when the "p" and "can" thing didnt work, I read further and found this whic worked. I had to turn the jog spped down to "h10" rather than "h100", turned control off. Held "2nd switch release" up and turned machine on. Continuing to hold "2nd sw. rel" up, I jogged machine off of over travel sw. Repeated error and cure a couple of times to make sure of how to do it.

[beege]

LSK is short for "label Skip", which just means any comments aren't read by the control.

How are you inputting the MDI commands? Detail please. Also (since I've never used a 6M), what does the rest of your screen look like, in memory mode?

[hopcycle]

Beege, thanks for the clarification. But now I'm really concerned that depressing the "menu" or "macro" buttons have no effect with the rotarty selector switch in edit, memory or mdi. As far as trying some simple manual moves, I placed the key swith in "data/write, the rotary switch on "mdi" and tried various methods of typing a linear g code move. Tried insert button, then command, then start. Tried command, EOB, start. Tried above and cycle start. I'm hoping I'm just missing a keystroke order and maybe with the manual, I'll have some success. Just hate the big $$$$ for my small company tied up and me waiting on manuals.

[CAD/CAM Man]

Two things. Is the machine wired for communication? And is the "lsk" flashing?

A flashing lsk means that the control is waiting for a program to be sent, which would explain why MDI is not working. If the machine is wired for communication, I would unplug the RS232 cable and then try MDI again.

[beege]

Try this:

in MDI mode, Type G01G91X2.0F20.;

That last semicolon is an end of block character. This puts the line into a buffer. Not ready to push start yet.

Now press "insert"

What you typed should move to the top of the screen. You can push start now. Anything?

Also, are there soft keys at the screen with words above them? What about soft keys to either side of the lower part of the screen? A picture is worth a thousand words!

[hopcycle]

cadcam man. The "lsk" is not flashing. The machine is wired for 232 port but I do not have a computer connected at this time.
Beege: I'm not at shop for another hour or so. I printed your instructions and will try when I arrive. There are no soft keys around the crt that I recognize. I'll try to get pic and post later this evening. Thanks both of you for trying to help.

[CAD/CAM Man]

Ok. I worked on a Mycenter many moons ago, and it actually had (2) rs232 ports. One for uploading, and the other for downloading. The pulg had to be manually switched depending on what you wanted to do. You said that a computer was not connected as of yet, so here is another question... is the rs232 plug hooked into the back of the machine in a communiction port? If it is, unplug it and see if you still have the problem.