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    086 alarm after EXEC pressed! No LSK! help!

    I am working with a 1991 Fanuc Drill Mate t-model 10 with a 0mb control. I am so close to getting this to work I can taste it! I am pressing [edit] [program] [floppy] [read] [01234] [input] [exec]... It should flash LSK after that but I get this 086 alarm! I must be off somewhere with the ladder parameters, the manual says the alarm is when inputing/outputing via reader/puncher interface, the ready signal (DR) of the input /output device is off, what does that mean? I am contecting from the DB25 port located in the front of the panel near the keyboards and crt, it is the only DB25 serial com port I can find on the machine.What must I do to get it to flash LSK and search for incoming data?


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    Try first outputing to the PC sucessfully, this at least tells you you have the right port and protocol.
    The ladder does not have much to do with the RS232.
    Make sure you have software handshake and I would jumper the Hardware handshake out, or at least only hook up the CTS/RTS pin 4 & 5 of the 25 pin to the PC.
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    Question

    I still have the same alarm when I attempt to shrfil, I think that is how you would send a file?!?! I guess it is sharefile... I still think there is an internal issue to address in order to reach LSK. I am unsure but I think the controller is looking for a PPR that I don't have or is currently set to use one, or do all omb controls list floppy-read-punch ? I don't remember having to put a file name in on other fanuc's just edit - program - floppy - read - exec... then LSK would flash. My memory is terrible and I can't be sure anymore, I have thought about it so much my brain is turning to mush


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    The important parms are:
    0001 = 01011000
    0002 = 11100011
    0012 = 00010001
    The manual I got from Al has notations different from this, but who knows what it's for... I am starting to wonder if it has something to do with the cable, I am using a 25 to 9 pin modem cable that is not user configurable. I found M5 on the master PCB hooked up to a honda connector going to the servo locker and then to ?, I think it would go up to the front mounted 25 pin but that's just a guess.


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    Quote Originally Posted by goodplastics View Post
    I am working with a 1991 Fanuc Drill Mate t-model 10 with a 0mb control. I am so close to getting this to work I can taste it! I am pressing [edit] [program] [floppy] [read] [01234] [input] [exec]... It should flash LSK after that but I get this 086 alarm! I must be off somewhere with the ladder parameters, the manual says the alarm is when inputing/outputing via reader/puncher interface, the ready signal (DR) of the input /output device is off, what does that mean? I am contecting from the DB25 port located in the front of the panel near the keyboards and crt, it is the only DB25 serial com port I can find on the machine.What must I do to get it to flash LSK and search for incoming data?
    The "DR" signal is pin 20(DTR), it needs to be connected (jumpered) to pins 6(DSR) and 8(DCD).
    you will also need to jumper pins 4 and 5 (rts, cts) and set your comunication software to use software hand shaking (xon,xoff)


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    Just for fun I tried the params listed in the notes fron the interface manual... It worked! I am able to get to the flashing LSK now! However I still have not interfacing happening. I changed the params to:
    0002 = 11110000
    0012 = 00001100
    This is all I changed and the 086 alarm went away. but I am still trying to get it to talk to the dnc program I downloaded. the baud rate is set to 1200 and mode is set to fanuc. Should data bits be 7 or 8 ? should stop bits be 1 or 2 ? Should parity be even or odd ? and flow control is xon/xoff... I think I'm going to have to go to fry's and get the 25 and 9 pin connectors and some shielded cable. How many conductors do I need in the shielded cable? Any cable recomendations?


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    For a Cable, use the 3 wire configuration with the HW HS jumpered out that I sent in the PM listed on the Cadem.com site.
    BTW Fanuc recommend 4800 baud as a start point with E,7,2
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    So I'm back from Fry's and I got a NULL modem (full handshake) adapter that jumpers 6-8-20 both ways and a 25 pin modem tester as well as 9 wire shielded cable and solder cup 25 and 9 pin conectors. I'll be back after more hair falls out!


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    WOW!!!!!! The modem checker is the best thing ever! It took away a bunch of my question marks! I am not guessing at the port or output anymore and I now know that the front DB25 is definately a com connector! I can see changes in the high low when I press exec and when I send from the PC! I bet I get it figured out soon now that I have this diagnostic aid!!!!


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    Okay! now we're getting somewhere! I input file number 1 before pressing Exec... then it goes LSK... then I press send on the dnc program... then I notice the file number changes from 1 to 2... then after a few seconds the DNC program says WAITING FOR CNC... I have set my port to 7/2/even/2400bd/xon-xoff and set same for dnc program output. What little tidbit is hanging up the works here?


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    DID you send from control to PC yet??
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    No Al not yet. I am still unsure how to do that on the control. Is it 'punch'? I am unsure about the cable at this point... the null modem adapter conects like this:
    25 pin 9pin
    1-------------1
    2-------------3
    3-------------2
    4-------------5
    5-------------4
    7-------------7
    8-6-20
    I am getting the last 3 lines of Gcode when I press stop, so something is close. I am making a cable right now like this:
    25pin 9pin
    2-----------2
    3-----------3
    5-----------7
    7-----------5
    6-8-20
    Please let me know if I'm on target
    Thanks


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