Need Help!- fanuc 10T weird G02/G03 move

[jolulank]

Hello everyone,

I have this problem, when I program G02 or G03, well in this particula case is a G03 the movement is odd. Let me explain

G00 X14.0 Z.26
G1 Z.16 F.01
X10.1894
G03 X4.5239 Z.7336 I-.0009 K7.2767
G1X4.6653 Z.8043
G00 etc.

Well, at the start of the G03 the tool instead of continuing the move, starts a radius move that goes inside the part (making the radius) and at the end finishes ok but after making a big curve inside the part.

I have tried everything I can think of, but I believe that there is a parameter that is causing it. If it is a PC parameters then I have no way of finding out as I only have the NC parameters description.

The machine is a Leblond Makino, Baron 25 fanuc 10T

Any help will be aprecciated

jolulank

[fordav11]

in my simulator your tool movement looks strange but nothing like you describe.
your tool moves away from the chuck. is this external or internal tool?
where is your Z0? it should be set on the face and the Z's should be minus but all of your Z's are positive.
did you generate the program with software or by hand?
what are you actually trying to machine..... give your part dimensions etc or a simple sketch and I can give you some working code.

[jolulank]

Yes, the tool should move away from the chuck; I am machinning an impeller and decided that my zero in z should be the face of the plate rather than the edge of the suction area because the port between plates is a critical dimension, but the move is correct. In fact I am using the same program in a Mori Seiki SL-3 but one of the PCBs malfunctioned so I had to change to this machine, but the program is running perfect in the Mori Seiki.
I generated the program with mastercam.

I am trying to machine an impeller similiar to these ones

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Thanks


jolulank

Originally Posted by fordav11 in my simulator your tool movement looks strange but nothing like you describe. your tool moves away from the chuck. is this external or internal tool? where is your Z0? it should be set on the face and the Z's should be minus but all of your Z's are positive. did you generate the program with software or by hand? what are you actually trying to machine..... give your part dimensions etc or a simple sketch and I can give you some working code.

[fordav11]

ok I see now. so describe more this 'big curve' you mentioned above. with a sketch if possible.
usually when that kind of thing happens either the direction of circular interpolation is wrong, the radius center point is wrong, the sign of I or K is wrong or the end point is wrong or the start point is wrong. that means the G02/G03 line or the start position above it.
if it cuts the part correctly but keeps going then the end point is wrong. since it works on the other machine and runs fine in my simulator (it cuts a concave curve just fine) it's a strange one. maybe try using R instead of I & K.

[jolulank]

Here is a dxf file for that part.
The other thing is tahat I know the machine's previous owner could not program any kind of radius movement. That is why I think is a parameter related issue.

Like I said, this big curve is one of the side plates of the impeller. And ind the dxf file that is attached and I added some offset lines to make the toolpath of the roughing.

I will ckeck the begin and end points,

Thanks for your help

jolulank

Originally Posted by fordav11 ok I see now. so describe more this 'big curve' you mentioned above. with a sketch if possible. usually when that kind of thing happens either the direction of circular interpolation is wrong, the radius center point is wrong, the sign of I or K is wrong or the end point is wrong or the start point is wrong. that means the G02/G03 line or the start position above it. if it cuts the part correctly but keeps going then the end point is wrong. since it works on the other machine and runs fine in my simulator (it cuts a concave curve just fine) it's a strange one. maybe try using R instead of I & K.

[fordav11]

the program is ok as-is IMO. It simulates fine as my pics above show.
please explain the incorrect tool movement part below......

Well, at the start of the G03 the tool instead of continuing the move, starts a radius move that goes inside the part (making the radius) and at the end finishes ok but after making a big curve inside the part.

also please try something simple like a 90 degree radius and explain the actual
tool movement on the machine (this cuts a 2" radius)......


%
G50 S250
G0 T0101
G97 S250 M3
G0 Z1.5
X2.0
G1 Z1.0 F.1
G3 X6.0 Z-1.0 R2.0
G0 X10.0 Z10.0
T0100 M5
M30
%

[jolulank]

I'll try it right away.

jolulank

Originally Posted by fordav11 the program is ok as-is IMO. It simulates fine as my pics above show. please explain the incorrect tool movement part below...... also please try something simple like a 90 degree radius and explain the actual tool movement on the machine (this cuts a 2" radius)...... % G50 S250 G0 T0101 G97 S250 M3 G0 Z1.5 X2.0 G1 Z1.0 F.1 G3 X6.0 Z-1.0 R2.0 G0 X10.0 Z10.0 T0100 M5 M30 %

[jolulank]

Once in position it does a CCW 270 degree arc instead of the 90 degree ccw move


thanks again for the help

jolulank

Originally Posted by fordav11 the program is ok as-is IMO. It simulates fine as my pics above show. please explain the incorrect tool movement part below...... also please try something simple like a 90 degree radius and explain the actual tool movement on the machine (this cuts a 2" radius)...... % G50 S250 G0 T0101 G97 S250 M3 G0 Z1.5 X2.0 G1 Z1.0 F.1 G3 X6.0 Z-1.0 R2.0 G0 X10.0 Z10.0 T0100 M5 M30 %

[G0G90]

Try a negitive R ... does it give you the 90 degrees?

[jolulank]

It does the same move with the negative R

Originally Posted by fordav11 the program is ok as-is IMO. It simulates fine as my pics above show. please explain the incorrect tool movement part below...... also please try something simple like a 90 degree radius and explain the actual tool movement on the machine (this cuts a 2" radius)...... % G50 S250 G0 T0101 G97 S250 M3 G0 Z1.5 X2.0 G1 Z1.0 F.1 G3 X6.0 Z-1.0 R2.0 G0 X10.0 Z10.0 T0100 M5 M30 %

[angelw]

Originally Posted by jolulank Once in position it does a CCW 270 degree arc instead of the 90 degree ccw move thanks again for the help jolulank

Is the 270 degree arc move as in attached Fig1 or Fig2?

Regards,

Bill

[fordav11]

try G3 X6.0 Z-1.0 I0 K-2.0