Macro A Anyone?

[beege]

Hi,


I thought this needed to be posted. There are so many questions having to do with Macro B, which some machines don't have, but perhaps they DO have Macro A, which nobody ever talks about.

I'd like to see if someone tests for Macro B and it doesn't work
(MDI ---> #500 = 1 EOB, Cycle start)
Tests also for Macro A (MDI --> G65 H01 P#500 Q1 EOB, cycle start) and finds it does work.

Macro A is cumbersome, but could be a live option for some.



From a 0M Operator's Manual, Macro A usage:

G65 H01 Pn Qn (Definition or substitution)
Macro B == #P = #Q

G65 H02 Pn Qn Rn (Addition)
Macro B == #P = #Q + #R

G65 H03 Pn Qn Rn (Subtraction)
Macro B == #P = #Q - #R

G65 H04 Pn Qn Rn (Multiplication)
Macro B == #P = #Q X #R

G65 H05 Pn Qn Rn (Division)
Macro B == #P = #Q / #R

G65 H11 Pn Qn Rn (Logical sum)
Macro B == #P = #Q OR #R

G65 H12 Pn Qn Rn (Logical product)
Macro B == #P = #Q AND #R

G65 H13 Pn Qn Rn (Exclusive OR)
Macro B == #P = #Q XOR #R

G65 H21 Pn Qn (square root)
Macro B == #P = SIN[#Q]

G65 H22 Pn Qn (Absolute Value)
Macro B == #P = ABS[#Q]

G65 H23 Pn Qn Rn (Remainder)
Macro B == ???

G65 H24 Pn Qn (BCD to Binary)
Macro B == #P = BIN[#Q]

G65 H25 Pn Qn (Binary to BCD)
Macro B == #P = BCD[#Q]

G65 H26 Pn Qn Rn (Combined multiplication / division)
Macro B == #P = [#P X #Q] / #R

G65 H27 Pn Qn Rn (Combined square root)
Macro B == #P = SQRT[[#Q X #Q] + [#R X #R]]

G65 H28 Pn Qn Rn (Combined square root)
Macro B == SQRT[[#Q X #Q] - [#R X #R]]

G65 H31 Pn Qn Rn(Sine)
Macro B == #P = #Q X SIN[#R]

G65 H32 Pn Qn Rn (Cosine)
Macro B == #P = #Q X COS[#R]

G65 H33 Pn Qn Rn(Tangent)
Macro B == #P = #Q X TAN[#R]

G65 H34 Pn Qn Rn (Arctangent)
Macro B == #P = #Q X ATAN[#R]

G65 H80 Pn (Divergence)
Macro B == GOTO #P

G65 H81 Pn Qn Rn (Conditional Divergence 1)
Macro B == IF #Q EQ #R GOTO #P

G65 H82 Pn Qn Rn (Conditional Divergence 2)
Macro B ==IF #Q NE #R GOTO #P

G65 H83 Pn Qn Rn (Conditional Divergence 3)
Macro B ==IF #Q GT #R GOTO #P

G65 H84 Pn Qn Rn (Conditional Divergence 4)
Macro B ==IF #Q LT #R GOTO #P

G65 H85 Pn Qn Rn (Conditional Divergence 5)
Macro B ==IF #Q GE #R GOTO #P

G65 H86 Pn Qn Rn(Conditional Divergence 6)
Macro B ==IF #Q LE #R GOTO #P

G65 H99 Pn (Alarm Occurrence, generates a P/S Alarm with number code 500+Pn)
Macro B == #3000 = 1 (ALARM NOTE)

[Al_The_Man]

Do you have A right now and need of Macro B or just pointing out the differences?
Al.

[beege]

Just bringing some information to the forum here. I thought it was needed. Can't find Macro A info anywhere using <insert search engine here>, and some here might need it.

[stevo1]

Good call Beege. I don't understand a bit of it but you are right that it may help many others.

I am sure you know exactly were I stand on macroA vs. macroB

Thanks for the info.

Stevo

[christinandavid]

A quite effective way to encrypt macro programs...

DP

[ED209]

Thanks Beege I just bought a lathe that had 4 Macro A progs in it now I have a better understanding of whats going on, they're for the tool sensor arm, which no longer exists on the machine. I do know Macro B & have written many a program.

[tc429]

dont macroB require a full key MDI? not all machines have them- none of the Zeroes we ordered ever did except one for a customer that wanted macro B...

almost all of the stuff Ive written here has been macro-A, not that bad...I also typed up a list like yours for the setup guys though- why Fanuc describes them in xyz instead of the required pqr format is beyond me- reading the manual just confuses folks. Macro B is a lot more readable, no doubt, but its still pretty powerful. I just ran into another issue with unpublished variables a few weeks ago,- wrote a macro to increment thru the variables to put a weird number in the one I wanted, found it that way...almost every register in the control is available in the macro table, but they dont tell you where they are- at least not where Ive found...

Important to note if writing Macro, the controls buffer 3 lines at a time- if one step effects a change in a variable of the next step, it will not work right...put two extra EOBs in there to fill the buffer and all works fine (till someone deletes the extra EOBs!!!)

Tim

[angelw]

Originally Posted by tc429 dont macroB require a full key MDI? not all machines have them- none of the Zeroes we ordered ever did except one for a customer that wanted macro B... Tim

Tim,
There are quite a few machines that used Macro B code in their tool change routines and don't have the full key pad. For machines configured in this way, you can write the Macro programs using a PC and upload to the control.

Regards,

Bill

[trio]

I also couldn't find any info on Macro A online anywhere!

I used it often with older controls, but lost my own list over the years. I really liked how you made the equivalent macro b very evident!

[oldgoat]

G65 H23 Pn Qn Rn (Remainder) Macro B == ???

#P = #Q MOD #R

Or as Fanuc notates it: #i = #j MOD #k (Remainder)

Extracted from the custom macro section of a Fanuc manual.

[beege]

Thanks "oldgoat" for filling in that blank. I couldn't make that connection myself for some reason.

[rai]

Lots of thanks.........................

Originally Posted by beege Hi, I thought this needed to be posted. There are so many questions having to do with Macro B, which some machines don't have, but perhaps they DO have Macro A, which nobody ever talks about. I'd like to see if someone tests for Macro B and it doesn't work (MDI ---> #500 = 1 EOB, Cycle start) Tests also for Macro A (MDI --> G65 H01 P#500 Q1 EOB, cycle start) and finds it does work. Macro A is cumbersome, but could be a live option for some. From a 0M Operator's Manual, Macro A usage: G65 H01 Pn Qn (Definition or substitution) Macro B == #P = #Q G65 H02 Pn Qn Rn (Addition) Macro B == #P = #Q + #R G65 H03 Pn Qn Rn (Subtraction) Macro B == #P = #Q - #R G65 H04 Pn Qn Rn (Multiplication) Macro B == #P = #Q X #R G65 H05 Pn Qn Rn (Division) Macro B == #P = #Q / #R G65 H11 Pn Qn Rn (Logical sum) Macro B == #P = #Q OR #R G65 H12 Pn Qn Rn (Logical product) Macro B == #P = #Q AND #R G65 H13 Pn Qn Rn (Exclusive OR) Macro B == #P = #Q XOR #R G65 H21 Pn Qn (square root) Macro B == #P = SIN[#Q] G65 H22 Pn Qn (Absolute Value) Macro B == #P = ABS[#Q] G65 H23 Pn Qn Rn (Remainder) Macro B == ??? G65 H24 Pn Qn (BCD to Binary) Macro B == #P = BIN[#Q] G65 H25 Pn Qn (Binary to BCD) Macro B == #P = BCD[#Q] G65 H26 Pn Qn Rn (Combined multiplication / division) Macro B == #P = [#P X #Q] / #R G65 H27 Pn Qn Rn (Combined square root) Macro B == #P = SQRT[[#Q X #Q] + [#R X #R]] G65 H28 Pn Qn Rn (Combined square root) Macro B == SQRT[[#Q X #Q] - [#R X #R]] G65 H31 Pn Qn Rn(Sine) Macro B == #P = #Q X SIN[#R] G65 H32 Pn Qn Rn (Cosine) Macro B == #P = #Q X COS[#R] G65 H33 Pn Qn Rn(Tangent) Macro B == #P = #Q X TAN[#R] G65 H34 Pn Qn Rn (Arctangent) Macro B == #P = #Q X ATAN[#R] G65 H80 Pn (Divergence) Macro B == GOTO #P G65 H81 Pn Qn Rn (Conditional Divergence 1) Macro B == IF #Q EQ #R GOTO #P G65 H82 Pn Qn Rn (Conditional Divergence 2) Macro B ==IF #Q NE #R GOTO #P G65 H83 Pn Qn Rn (Conditional Divergence 3) Macro B ==IF #Q GT #R GOTO #P G65 H84 Pn Qn Rn (Conditional Divergence 4) Macro B ==IF #Q LT #R GOTO #P G65 H85 Pn Qn Rn (Conditional Divergence 5) Macro B ==IF #Q GE #R GOTO #P G65 H86 Pn Qn Rn(Conditional Divergence 6) Macro B ==IF #Q LE #R GOTO #P G65 H99 Pn (Alarm Occurrence, generates a P/S Alarm with number code 500+Pn) Macro B == #3000 = 1 (ALARM NOTE)