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Old 01-23-2011, 03:22 PM
 
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Amada Coma 567 04p-c error need help

I am an operator of above said machine in the title. The other night I was on a long run, everything was fine, program loaded perfectly at the start. Half way through the run I had to change over to complete a "hot re-work order". I go into edit mode, delete my current program, and upload the program for the re-work. I then went into the MDI and zero'ed my count, continued into auto memory mode, and ran the order out, no problems.

I then deleted the program and went back to MDI, reset my count to what it was where i left off, then went into Edit mode, typed in my program, followed the 07777 punch procedure, and when I pushed the "read" button, I got an error that said (rec) error.

The machine will run perfect manually typing in a full program, but will not accept a program, when this error occurs it sends a "corrupt" file back to the computer it recieves files from, complete jibberish is contained in them.

This is the first time anyone has seen this error. where do i start trouble shooting this?
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:03 PM
 
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1. check if anything was changed in set page ( tv check,etc.).
2. what is alarm # ?
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:45 PM
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Hello,
Are you sure you didn't inadvertently change the number for the INPUT DEVICE when you were keying into the items on the SETTING page display? It almost sounds like the input device setting was changed so now it is looking for a different device?
0: Tape Reader(for build in tape reader)
1: SIO 1(for tape reader with baud rate of 1200)
2: SIO 2(for tape reader with baud rate of 2400)
3: SIO 3(for tape reader with baud rate of 4800)
4: REMOTE BUFFER (for remote controlled operation)

Are you getting any alarms? alarm numbers??
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There is no error code number along with this problem. The input device is as it always has been. SIO:2 and output SIO:3 I did find that If I altered the Input device, the error would not show, however the program would not load, and "Read" would just flash. Maybe the driver is dead?
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I would also check settings on the computer.
Why have different settings for input and output?
The jibberish file received at the pc indicates incorrect baud rate setting, at least it does with both my 04P-C and 6M controls.
You could also try sending from the computer to controller with 'no handshake' setting on the computer.
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is this now useless

I have very old CNC Punching machine
it is AMADA PEGA 244 with CNC Fanuc O4P-C
I Have 2 Problems

1st

the problem was that in start up in cnc mode it give message Power off Start Again when i select MMC mode it show 3 alarms

1- Alarm 100 parameter write Enable
2- Alarm 417 servo Alarm x Axis parameter
3- Alarm 427 servo Alarm Y Axis Parameter
I entered to parameter list i find most of it zeros . I haven't the parameter list of the machine . also when i press on MDI push bottom it is not active . i want the procedure to change the parameters.

2nd

while one of my friends want to help me to fix the problem he remove the battery while the power was OFF . after that when switch the power on again we find in CNC mode new message '' SYSTEM ERRO''. and in MMC mode the page of alarms and parameter not come it stop after checking memory then i couldn't even go to parameter pages now .

i need help from my friends here to fix all this problems .


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Old 12-31-2011, 09:11 PM
 
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You may need to initialize the memory, this will clear all the parameters and all stored programs. To do this you press and hold 0 (zero) and Delete keys while you power on. Then you reload the parameters, either from the parameter tapes or manually enter the values.
Do you have the parameter tapes for your machine?
Is it thin turret or thick turret machine? . . .how many stations?
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Old 12-31-2011, 09:16 PM
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as a general rule do NOT initialize the memory except as a last resort. it will cause major problems with parameters. take a look around these forums and see how many people have trouble with lost parameters and getting their machine running. some are still not running after years. don't do it!

hmmm, anyway, if you **ONLY** had 2 problems you would be ok LOL!!!
you removed the battery with the power off and you dont have a parameter backup or PMC backup and you have no knowledge of even how to change parameters so you've basically created a thousand problems and f**ked the machine.

In this case clearing the memory may get you back to square one and allow you to enter parameters but you will not be able to get the machine running yourself even if someone here gives you step by step instructions on certain procedures because your machine is not common, has an old/strange control and you do not have a parameter and PMC backup.

It will take you years to fix it but I doubt that is even possible without specialized help. Your only option is to find someone with the same machine and get a parameter and PMC backup from them and re-load it. That task alone is a MAJOR hurdle. Otherwise you need to call in a Fanuc technician or sell it as scrap

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Old 01-01-2012, 02:29 AM
 
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fanuc AMADAN O4P-C

Dear all

-i haven't the parameter tapes for my machine

-in my country it isn't possible to get Fanuc technician

so what i can do with this status
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Your only option is to find someone with the same machine and get a parameter and PMC backup from them and re-load it
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tanks perfpro thanks fordav11

tanks perfpro thanks fordav11
I have initialize the memory . now it back to the first problem again. any body could help me to find parameters of AMADA PEGA 244 Fanuc AMADAN O4P-C
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Old 01-01-2012, 05:59 AM
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let's start by properly identifying your Fanuc control.
the base configuration must be something standard.
if necessary open the cabinet and take some pics of the control unit.
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