Fanuc 10T - Where are the data tables??

[Andy Fritz]

I keep getting "FS10T9B 1220 I RAM PARITY ERROR" after trying to up load a
program file and it doesn't matter which file it is. On reboot I get to the IPL screen and after deleting all program files it boots up fine. I want to try to reinitialize the whole memory, and have double checked that I have all parameters backed up.

Only hitch is that when I check the PC parameters I can only see the first page of timers, counters and data. For example the timers should go to 40 but I can only see up to 30 on the first page. Counters should go ut to No 20, but I can only see up to 15. Pressing DATA only shows the DATA TABLE CONTROL DATA page. The DATA TABLE DATA #1 and #2 pages should also have some numbers but I cant find those pages.

I found a guide on the net which said to press the "PAGE" button, but I dont think I have a page button.

I just want to make sure I can access all pages to input data before I zap the memory!

Any ideas?


Andy

[memoryman]

it is not called "page"- it is the down arrow on the standard mdi panel. On the small keyboard, pressing the -> and ->> keys together works as a down arrow.
Hope this explains it.

[Andy Fritz]

Originally Posted by memoryman it is not called "page"- it is the down arrow on the standard mdi panel. On the small keyboard, pressing the -> and ->> keys together works as a down arrow. Hope this explains it.

Thanks! I was starting to fear the memory problem had chewed up the data.
I have tons of documentation on this machine, but no Fanuc 10T operator manual.

Thanks again,

Andy

[stevo1]

Once you cleared the memory did you enter in the option parameters 9100 and up?

Stevo

[Andy Fritz]

Originally Posted by stevo1 Once you cleared the memory did you enter in the option parameters 9100 and up? Stevo

I haven't cleared the memory yet. I want to be 100% sure it is not an RS232 problem so I am going to run some tests transferring different length files using different settings and different cable pin configurations.

Andy

[goldhands]

Hi folks I'm glad to be on this forum hoping to learn more about CNC as we go along to add on my little experience I have Thank you

[stevo1]

With the alarm that you are getting you will probably have to clear the memory.

You want to make sure that you have all of your programs including the 8000 and 9000 macros. If they are locked via parameter then when you punch the programs out of the control they will not come out. To unlock them it is 11.0 for the 8000’s and 2201.0 for the 9000’s.

The other major thing on this control is you want to make sure that you have all of your PMC timers, counters, keeprelays out of the control. These do not punch out via RS232 so you have to write them down. Attached is a formatted sheet to do so. It just helps keep them in order and to ensure that you got them all.

Once the above is complete you can do the following to clear the memory.

To do a master clear
power on with "7" and "9" depressed
IPL screen will appear press "99" "Input"
clear "Y" then it will ask you axis. This is the number in #9000
next it will ask you option #1? press "Input"
Press "Input" through all options. Should only be 32 options
It will ask to clear data or memory hit "Y"
Then select option "6" to exit IPL

To enter in option parameters
1) Power up machine with "-" minus and "." decimal point depressed
2) Key "99" and "Input"

3) Key in "3" or whatever # axes in parameter 9000 @ "AXIS" prompt
4) Step through options by number and key new Hexidecimal codes and "input"
option 1=9100, option 2=9101 ect. Just push input if no change is required
5) If "clear files" appears, hit "Y" - will erase programs etc.
6) When 1st menu appears, key "6" and "enter"

Once complete then enter in the PMC data from the sheet. Then setup your RS232 parameters and load the NC parameters along with the parameters and offsets.

Stevo

[Andy Fritz]

Hi Stevo,

Thanks for your reply.
I thought I was well prepared with the 9100+ options converted to hex, but this thing with 8K and 9K macros not being included in parameter punch was new. Amazing the 600+ pages maintenance manual does not mention this!
I will try again to make sure. I have all PC parameters written down.

Do you by the way know exactly what is happening during the reset procedure?
I mean, if there are bad parts of the memmory, does that get mapped out to prevent using it in the future, (like mapping bad sectors on a hard drive) or does it just erase the memory? This is not bubble memory. Just the standard stuff with battery back up.

Andy

[Andy Fritz]

Ah forgot to ask;
When you write it is 11.0 to unprotect the 8000 macros do you mean go to parameter 8000 and set it to 00000011 instead of 00000001, or do you mean set 0 on all bits in parameter 11?

Andy

[stevo1]

Yes they will not punch out of the control if they are locked. Use the blank form that I attached. It will helps ensure that you looked at all the tables and have all the data out of them.

I am not an expert on the technicalities of what “exactly” happens with the memory when you do a reset procedure. I know that it clears everything in the control and it does remap the memory but as to if it prevents from using bad parts of the memory, I don’t know.

To unlock the 8000 and 9000 those are the parameters and bits that need to be changed in order to unlock them. So you still have to go into “settings” to the PWE bit set it to 1 (00000001). Then go to parameter 11 bit 0 and this is the bit to lock and unlock your 8000 programs. You then go to parameter 2201 bit 0 and this is the bit to lock and unlock your 9000 programs.

Stevo

[Andy Fritz]

Originally Posted by stevo1 Yes they will not punch out of the control if they are locked. Use the blank form that I attached. It will helps ensure that you looked at all the tables and have all the data out of them. I am not an expert on the technicalities of what “exactly” happens with the memory when you do a reset procedure. I know that it clears everything in the control and it does remap the memory but as to if it prevents from using bad parts of the memory, I don’t know. To unlock the 8000 and 9000 those are the parameters and bits that need to be changed in order to unlock them. So you still have to go into “settings” to the PWE bit set it to 1 (00000001). Then go to parameter 11 bit 0 and this is the bit to lock and unlock your 8000 programs. You then go to parameter 2201 bit 0 and this is the bit to lock and unlock your 9000 programs. Stevo

thanks for the explanation. So the bits should be set to "0" and not "1". All of the 8 bits or only the first? Should they be reset back after all parameters have been re-loaded?

One more; I have both the original PC and NC parameter sheets which came with the machine, plus what I punched out when I got the machine. They are more or less the same, but parameter 9110. The original sheet says it should be set to 00010000, where as my punched sheet say it is currently set to 00001000. As I dont know if the original sheet has a typo or if someone set this incorrectly, do you know what the difference is?
If this is copyrighted stuff, maybe you could PM?

Cheers,

Andy

[stevo1]

When changing parameters setting like 11.0 or 2201.0 you only need to have bit 0 of parameter 8000 (which is the PWE bit) set to 1 (00000001). It will not hurt anything to set all the bits to 1 (11111111). I actually often do this because it’s easier when you search for 8000 all the bits are lit up and if you press 1 then input it changes all the bits to 1 rather than using the cursor to get to bit 0 and change it. I hope that explains it as I was a bit confused on what exactly you were asking about what parameters and what bits need to be set.

To make sure you have everything just open your parameter file and it should read from N0 to about N10511. This means you have all of your parameters.

As to the 9110 parameter being different I don’t know why someone would have changed it to that particular bit as it hinders you more so. You want it back to the original, this will be better for you. If you want I can send you a PM with an explanation on why you want it set back to the original.

Stevo