Fagor Or Fanuc

[kaptan9922]

Hii...FAGOR or FANUC Which one is better?

[Al_The_Man]

Better from what point of view, Reliability? Support? Programming?
They have both been around along time and the support is generally the same, however you should check in the country you intend to use it in to see what support is offered both technical and Parts.
Also important is if the original Machine tool builder is still around or already has a strong presence.
You can have the best control in the world, but if the machine construction is lousy, the control won't make up for it.
If you buy used, insist on getting all the documentation.
Al.

[kaptan9922]

Reliability and programming?

[Al_The_Man]

As far as reliability, I have found them about the same, I am not a Machine operator but, I see Fagor has some new features in the way of Converstional programming, called Icon converstional, where you can pick tooling on screen and the process in the form of picture/icons.
Al.

[NC Cams]

Do NOT, absolutely NOT buy anything without documentation, especially older equipment. DO NOT think you can get it on the net, either.

Figure on "old" being in the realm of over 5-7 years. Stuff that was easy to run on DOS is now getting REAL hard to do - ISA slots are gone from personal PC's and, outside of incustrial PC"s, not supported.

Moreover, XP machines have demonstrated some hiccups when trying to talk to DOS machines - some parallel don't work on XP like they do on DOS. We've gone to dumpster diving to keep older stuff alive. Even some post Win 98SE machines can hiccup when you try to run DOS stuff. Life gets too short when you try to interface to unsupported O/S's or software.

Re: Fadal vs Fanuc - Depends on model, year, make, service, country, machine features, iron, condition of machine, your skill level at self diagnosis or repairing, etc.

Keep in mind that some machines had custom features that you can't won't get if they went under. We have some General Numeric Fanuc 5T controls. Called Fanuc for info on the "software PROM". We were told that version of software doesn't exist and never did - I have 3 machines on the floor with factory labeled PROMS in them with the exact software codes I asked for. Like DUH....

Older machines can provide good value - they can also turn into your worst nightmare if you try to resurrect something that is essentialy "orphan" technology from a contemporay vendor or, worse yet, an out of business machine tool maker with an orphan controller from a still there control system vendor.

Please reformulate your question to ask more specific question pursuant to your needs/desires/etc.

[kaptan9922]

Sorry, I am teaching english speak's so but poor speak english,I will buy new cnc machine ,using is fagor system8040M series,Linear guideways HIWIN ,Servo motors YASKAWA, Spindle speed 10000 rev/min.
this specification machine, using FAGOR or FANUC?

[Al_The_Man]

The Fagor comes with alot of features that you pay extra for on Fanuc, The 8040 has the new icon based conversational programming, although I haven't seen any user reports on it yet.
They are probabally giving Fanuc a run for their money.
Al.

[DareBee]

I really like the 8040 control on my lathe.
Very easy for a general layman to program

[Kiwi]

My mill has the FAGOR 8055M controller which I am more than happy with.
I have never used a FANUC so unable to make a comparison.