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    Hello everyone,
    We recently had out 4020 VMC "tuned" up anfter moving it to a new location in our shop by compumachine. I'm having a problem with the home position after a program runs. the issue is that at the end of my program, there is a string of cosde that reads "E0 x0 y0", and I went in and edited the line to force the table to come to a position that helped me reach the vice. I changed the code to read "E0 x5. y5." the table actually actually goes to x10.2885 y5.2125 instead. is there a way to change the table position to read correctly. I've done this change many times before and never had an issue. I've tried usng the CS command and the setX SetY command. I've tried turning the machine off and on again...I've never come across this before. I'm wondering if the repair guy set something in the parameters that make it move off an extra x5.2885 and y.2125 . can anyone help?



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    Send me a message with your phone number and what time to reach you and I'll try to help you over the phone.

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    posting a files useing the rs232... I am looking for a drip feed programm for my 95 4020vmc

    any low cost options? I use the fadal program to load now and it works good but is MSDOS based and no drip option

    thanks
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    I'm using DNCv4 from dncsoftware.com -- This software support X-modem protocol, allowing you to transfer at speeds of 115k baud error-free (use "DNCX" command instead of just "DNC").

    Cost was about $100 or so I remember



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    This thread has been very helpful. Thanks.

    One question I still have is once I've set my tool length offsets for one part and I want to use the same set of tools for another part that's a different thickness do I have to reset all the tools again by touching off on the new part?



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    Quote Originally Posted by ddgman2001 View Post
    This thread has been very helpful. Thanks.

    One question I still have is once I've set my tool length offsets for one part and I want to use the same set of tools for another part that's a different thickness do I have to reset all the tools again by touching off on the new part?
    If you use fixture offsets (E1-E48) in conjunction with your tool length offsets then no you would not have to touch off again on the new part. You would just adjust the fixture offset by the difference in thickness.



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    You can use the mass modify function to change all tool length offsets either up or down in just a few key strokes to account for the variation in your zero part position.

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    Thanks, that helps. To me it makes slightly more sense to set the tool lengths off the table surface then add the fixture/part thickness.



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    Default Re: Fadal VMC Setup Questions

    TOOL SETTING PROCEDURE FOR FADAL MACHINES

    THIS IS TO SET ALL TOOLS FROM TOP OF TABLE USING A BLOCK OR TOOL

    SETTER. USING E1 FOR LENGTH OFFSET (THIS ENABLES SETTING ONE

    OFFSET FOR ALL TOOLS. TIME SAVING OF SETTING ALL TOOLS FOR EVERY

    SETUP)



    1. USE TOOL SETTER OFF TOP OF TABLE.

    2. SET TOOLS WITH UTILITY PROGRAM TELLING IT BLOCK IS ZERO HEIGHT.

    3. AFTER ALL TOOLS ARE SET CALL TOOL #1 T1M6.

    4. ENTER H1Z10.00 (THIS WILL ENABLE JOGING WITH OFFSET ACTIVE)

    5. JOG TOOL TO TOP OF PART MEMORIZE Z LOCATION OR WRITE IT DOWN

    (THIS NUMBER IS THE DISTANCE FROM THE TOP OF THE SETTER BLOCK TO

    THE TOP OF THE PART)

    6. GOTO DF SCREEN ENTER YOUR MEMORIZED NUMBER INTO OFFSET 1 ON THE

    Z.


    WHEN SETTING TO A DIFFERENT HEIGHT PART OR ANOTHER SETUP. JUST

    REPEAT STEP 3 TO 6. ALL TOOLS WILL BE SET TO TOP OF PART.


    WHEN ADDING TOOLS OR CHANGING TOOL. IT MUST BE SET FROM TOP OF

    TABLE. LIKE IN STEPS 1 AND 2. YOU CAN USE SL OR THE UT FOR THIS.
    FOR SETTING JUST ONE TOOL USE SL FOR MULTIPLE USE THE UT.





    THIS IS A SUMMERY OF WHAT THE PROGRAM LOOKS LIKE TO DO THIS
    THIS IS FORMAT 2



    N130 ( T1 | 3 CENTER DRILL | H1 )
    N140 ( T2 | 14 CENTER DRILL | H2 )
    N150 ( T3 | 5 CENTER DRILL | H3 )
    N160 G20
    N170 G0 G17 G40 G80 G90
    N180 T1 M6
    N190 G0 G90 S3667 M3 E1 X0. Y0.
    N200 H1 Z.1 M8
    N210 G81 G99 X0. Y0. Z0. R0.1 F29.34
    N220 X-1.8801 Y-.3524
    N230 G80
    N240 M5 M9
    G28 Z0.0
    N260 M1
    N270 T2 M6
    N280 G0 G90 S3667 M3 E1 X0. Y0.
    N290 H2 Z.1 M8
    N300 G81 G99 X0. Y0. Z0. R0.1 F29.34
    N310 X-1.8801 Y-.3524
    N320 G80
    N330 M5 M9
    G28 Z0.0
    N350 M1
    N360 T3 M6
    N370 G0 G90 S3667 M3 E1 X0. Y0.
    N380 H3 Z.1 M8
    N390 G81 G99 X0. Y0. Z0. R0.1 F29.34
    N400 X-1.8801 Y-.3524
    N410 G80
    N420 M5 M9
    G28 Z0.0
    N450 M30
    %
    %



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    Default Re: Fadal VMC Setup Questions

    TOOL SETTING PROCEDURE FOR FADAL MACHINES
    THIS IS TO SET ALL TOOLS FROM TOP OF TABLE USING A BLOCK OR TOOL

    SETTER. USING E1 FOR LENGTH OFFSET (THIS ENABLES SETTING ONE

    OFFSET FOR ALL TOOLS. TIME SAVING OF SETTING ALL TOOLS FOR EVERY

    SETUP)



    1. USE TOOL SETTER OFF TOP OF TABLE.

    2. SET TOOLS WITH UTILITY PROGRAM TELLING IT BLOCK IS ZERO HEIGHT.

    3. AFTER ALL TOOLS ARE SET CALL TOOL #1 T1M6.

    4. ENTER H1Z10.00 (THIS WILL ENABLE JOGING WITH OFFSET ACTIVE)

    5. JOG TOOL TO TOP OF PART MEMORIZE Z LOCATION OR WRITE IT DOWN

    (THIS NUMBER IS THE DISTANCE FROM THE TOP OF THE SETTER BLOCK TO

    THE TOP OF THE PART)

    6. GOTO DF SCREEN ENTER YOUR MEMORIZED NUMBER INTO OFFSET 1 ON THE

    Z.


    WHEN SETTING TO A DIFFERENT HEIGHT PART OR ANOTHER SETUP. JUST

    REPEAT STEP 3 TO 6. ALL TOOLS WILL BE SET TO TOP OF PART.


    WHEN ADDING TOOLS OR CHANGING TOOL. IT MUST BE SET FROM TOP OF

    TABLE. LIKE IN STEPS 1 AND 2. YOU CAN USE SL OR THE UT FOR THIS.
    FOR SETTING JUST ONE TOOL USE SL FOR MULTIPLE USE THE UT.





    THIS IS A SUMMERY OF WHAT THE PROGRAM LOOKS LIKE TO DO THIS
    THIS IS FORMAT 2



    N130 ( T1 | 3 CENTER DRILL | H1 )
    N140 ( T2 | 14 CENTER DRILL | H2 )
    N150 ( T3 | 5 CENTER DRILL | H3 )
    N160 G20
    N170 G0 G17 G40 G80 G90
    N180 T1 M6
    N190 G0 G90 S3667 M3 E1 X0. Y0.
    N200 H1 Z.1 M8
    N210 G81 G99 X0. Y0. Z0. R0.1 F29.34
    N220 X-1.8801 Y-.3524
    N230 G80
    N240 M5 M9
    G28 Z0.0
    N260 M1
    N270 T2 M6
    N280 G0 G90 S3667 M3 E1 X0. Y0.
    N290 H2 Z.1 M8
    N300 G81 G99 X0. Y0. Z0. R0.1 F29.34
    N310 X-1.8801 Y-.3524
    N320 G80
    N330 M5 M9
    G28 Z0.0
    N350 M1
    N360 T3 M6
    N370 G0 G90 S3667 M3 E1 X0. Y0.
    N380 H3 Z.1 M8
    N390 G81 G99 X0. Y0. Z0. R0.1 F29.34
    N400 X-1.8801 Y-.3524
    N410 G80
    N420 M5 M9
    G28 Z0.0
    N450 M30
    %
    %



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