Haas 4th axis on a Fadal ???

[Greg Mueller]

Anyone know if a Haas 4th Axis gizmo can be hooked up to a Fadal? I'm looking at one of the new "FX" units and have a low mileage 4th axis from my Haas that I'd like to use on the Fadal

[cdlenterprises]

The Haas indexers that I've seen have their own separate controller that runs the indexer. You usually program the indexer movements in the Haas controller and place an M code in the machine program to trigger the indexer to move. I've used several Haas indexers on Fadals in the past with no problems....

[Greg Mueller]

The way mine works is to plug it straight into my Haas. It's a true 4th axis gizmo. I have heard that you can use one on a Fadal with an adaptor box, but was hoping a little plug rewiring might adapt it so it can be used as a 4th axis on the Fadal

[HAILINHAAS]

Story goes that in the beginning Gene Haas wanted to sell his indexer to Fadal to install on their machines. They said no thanks. A couple years later Haas' first cnc mill debuts at Westec. Twenty years later Hass is the number one manufacturer of CNC machines in the world .. by volume. Just a side story behind this.

[Chuck Pressure]

We just got a 2216FX about a month ago and I was wondering the same thing about a Haas Rotary head....We have an old S5c unit on our other machine that must be 15 years old and it still works good! they are bullitt proof! I would be interested to know the hookup as well.

[ltmquik]

Why don't you just get a HAAS? You need to consider the interface between the 4th but also your pull studs are different and programs are slightly different. We have both Fadals and HAAS machines. I have to have seperate tooling for each or switch pull studs if I need a piece of tooling that was used in another machine.

[Scott_bob]

Woh... Yeh I hate that those studs have to be switched!
Oh the downtime...






Just kidding

[Neal]

If your existing VH-5C has a DC servo motor it is not compatible with the Fanuc AC servos. A Fanuc motor would need to be fitted. I'm assuming this is hooked up as a true 4th axis. If it is an indexer with an external control box, let me know and I'll get the hook up for you from Engineering.

Neal

[ltmquik]

Originally Posted by Scott_bob Woh... Yeh I hate that those studs have to be switched! Oh the downtime... Just kidding

Hey in this business time is money! And one should really be applying thread lock to the studs.

My point was more to be why change a good thing. ALTHOUGH I HAVE HEARD THAT THE FX MACHINES ARE 43% FASTER THAN THE OTHER MACHINES!!!!!!!!! LOL.

[billystein]

i have used the haas indexer with the control box. you need to connect it to the fadal board (i believe it is 1030). they also call it an m code board. it sends the signal t0 index to the next program step.

[Neal]

the indexer external control box connects to the 1050 card (not the 1030 buss interface) in slot 16 of the card cage and the 1060 mother board.

Neal

[Chuck Pressure]

Originally Posted by Neal the indexer external control box connects to the 1050 card (not the 1030 buss interface) in slot 16 of the card cage and the 1060 mother board. Neal

Is this for an FX machine with a Fanuc oi-mc control??