CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > MetalWorking Machines > Fadal


Fadal Discuss Fadal machinery here!


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 02-05-2006, 01:14 PM
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: USA
Age: 36
Posts: 493
Edster is on a distinguished road
Max baud rate on cnc88hs for rs232

I have a 94 fadal vmc15 with a -4 cnc88hs control.

What is the max baud rate for this control version using rs232 communication?

What is the max baud rate for the -5 system?

Thanks

Ed
Reply With Quote

  #2  
Old 02-05-2006, 06:59 PM
Scott_bob's Avatar
Mfg Engineer
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: United States
Posts: 458
Scott_bob is on a distinguished road

Set it up at the highest baud rate available in the "setp" screen...
Then match your DNC system obviously to that.
Reply With Quote

  #3   Ban this user!
Old 02-05-2006, 10:12 PM
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: USA
Age: 36
Posts: 493
Edster is on a distinguished road

I believe the control says 38,000 max baud in the settings page. 4800 is all I can get to work so far. I have a betatronics optically isolated communication setup. The betatronics setup works perfectly at 115,000 baud on my haas machines. I also tried a homemade cable, and a predator cable setup from shop floor automations. I know the port settings are good otherwise it wouldn't work at 4800 baud. Any help would be appreciated.
Reply With Quote

  #4   Ban this user!
Old 02-06-2006, 09:02 AM
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: us
Posts: 9
Grip is on a distinguished road

Section 14, Page 322 of the user manual gives the commands (CD,) showing the different baud rates available. 115,200 is the highest value for the Fadal, CD,12.
Reply With Quote

  #5   Ban this user!
Old 02-06-2006, 09:15 AM
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: USA
Age: 36
Posts: 493
Edster is on a distinguished road

115,000 isnt available on a -4 system. To further complicate things the manual on fadal's website which I have is for the newer model machines. They don't have a manual available for the older versions.
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #6  
Old 02-06-2006, 09:20 AM
DareBee's Avatar
Monkeywrench Technician
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Stratford, Ont. Canada
Posts: 2,783
DareBee is on a distinguished road

Edster
My machine is a 4020 but same year and probably same control revision. My machine control will accept a maximum of 9600 baud, I would assume yours to be the same. I hope you can get yours configured to 9600, I know all to well that this is way to slow for complicated 3D work but I can hardly imagine trying to do work at 4800 when I sometimes choke up at 9600.
I cant remember offhand but control has something like 115K memory (less than wrist watch I think) Hooray for RS232 and DNC as well as some creative programming.
__________________
www.integratedmechanical.ca
Reply With Quote

  #7   Ban this user!
Old 02-06-2006, 09:43 AM
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: USA
Age: 36
Posts: 493
Edster is on a distinguished road

All the port settings are the same on both ends for 4800 and 9600 correct?
I've tried all the baud rate settings except the ones slower than 4800 and couldn't seem to get them to work. Now I have an optically isolated cable and still can't go over 4800. bummer.

I've got there memory upgrade a whopping 422k for the -4 system


I have had problems with the machine hesitating during long 3d programs that I'm drip feeding. That's why the concern latey.
Reply With Quote

  #8  
Old 02-06-2006, 11:16 AM
Scott_bob's Avatar
Mfg Engineer
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: United States
Posts: 458
Scott_bob is on a distinguished road

Everyone who DNC's programs on a Fadal,

You must power down after changing your communication settings!
Make you change, then power down. Then these new settings will be in effect...
__________________
Scott_bob
Reply With Quote

  #9   Ban this user!
Old 02-06-2006, 02:14 PM
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: USA
Age: 36
Posts: 493
Edster is on a distinguished road

Scott_bob you hit the nail on the head

After leaving the setup screen the machine software would re boot and even ask me to cold start the machine again. I never thought to turn the power off. I was talking to gordon from Betatronics and we initially thought this was caused by sending the TA,1 command from the pc before the %. But that's working fine now.

The max speed in the control is 38,400 and that's what I'm running now through an 80 ft rs-232 cable!

Thanks for the help everybody
Reply With Quote

  #10  
Old 02-08-2006, 02:19 PM
DareBee's Avatar
Monkeywrench Technician
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Stratford, Ont. Canada
Posts: 2,783
DareBee is on a distinguished road

Than you VERY much for this thread guys.
I have tried before and never been able to exceed 9600.
My service tech even told me that 9600 was maximum on this machine.
I little bit more trying based on this advice here has got my speed up there now!

MUCH APPRECIATED
__________________
www.integratedmechanical.ca
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #11   Ban this user!
Old 02-08-2006, 04:39 PM
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: USA
Age: 36
Posts: 493
Edster is on a distinguished road

Don't keep us in suspense. What baud rate are you communicating with, and how long of a cable do you have?
Reply With Quote

  #12  
Old 02-09-2006, 07:42 AM
DareBee's Avatar
Monkeywrench Technician
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Stratford, Ont. Canada
Posts: 2,783
DareBee is on a distinguished road

I thought I would stay on the safe side and am set at 19200 (for now).
My 18 AWG cable is about 40' long and I amrunning a generic serial to USB adapter on my notebook.
The machine didn't seem to want to change the root parameters on a CD* input, it worked as a temp setting.
When a changed baud in setP and powered down it worked great.
__________________
www.integratedmechanical.ca
Reply With Quote

Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:03 PM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361